[CFRG] Re: [pqc-forum] NIST
Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 06 February 2025 18:22 UTC
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From: Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2025 13:21:31 -0500
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Interesting, increases in support for NIST as a result... On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 1:03 PM oxmon <yaspr=40pm.me@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > Hi, > > Interesting articles detailing the changes occuring in tech and related to > NIST. > https://ww2.aip.org/fyi/week-of-feb-3-2025 > > https://www.responsible.ai/ai-governance-in-transition-shifting-from-the-biden-to-trump-administration/ > > https://www.gibsondunn.com/two-weeks-in-key-trump-administration-developments-in-tech-policy/ > > Project2025's plans/vision for NIST: > https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_CHAPTER-21.pdf > > Nothing related to crypto! > > Jasper > On Thursday, February 6th, 2025 at 6:02 PM, Sophie Schmieg <sschmieg= > 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > To be fair though, the same applies to US AID, NOAA, the Department of > Education, etc. I do think preparing mitigations for at least temporary > availability risks of NIST's documents might be prudent. I downloaded > everything I considered important for my own work when there was a looming > shutdown in December, but a more comprehensive approach might be useful. > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 7:12 AM Ethan Gordon <ethan.gordon@byteslogik.com> > wrote: > >> Some context: >> >> NIST is under the Department of Commerce which was created by Congress in >> 1903. Any attempt by the executive to unilaterally shutter NIST without a >> bill approved by congress violates the law and constitution so it would be >> struck down. Downsizing would likely involve refusing to spend funds >> already appropriated by congress which is also in violation of the law. >> >> I am not a NIST employee so I cannot speak to current agency events but I >> do work for agencies in the IC. Any attempts to do the above should be >> prohibited or rolled back once challenged in court. >> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 11:26 PM 'Michael Scott' via pqc-forum < >> pqc-forum@list.nist.gov> wrote: >> >>> As we know NIST employees make a major contribution to these groups. >>> >>> I am curious to know what is the likely impact of the recent regime >>> change in the US, and the establishment of the DOGE agency, on NIST? >>> >>> Will it be (a) shuttered (b) downsized or (c) will it be business as >>> usual? >>> >>> Some reassurance on this would be welcome. >>> >>> NIST is a federal agency, and I have read reports that the sister agency >>> NSA is already impacted. (Even the CIA, so it does seem unlikely that NIST >>> would not be impacted in some way.) >>> >>> The work of NIST is of course of international significance. >>> >>> >>> Mike Scott >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "pqc-forum" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to pqc-forum+unsubscribe@list.nist.gov. >>> To view this discussion visit >>> https://groups.google.com/a/list.nist.gov/d/msgid/pqc-forum/CAEseHRoU8ZaPmywgzRQdD0bG3EyvBFisri%3D4CZT9KtiDwfJ6cg%40mail.gmail.com >>> . >>> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> >> Ethan Gordon >> Founder and CEO >> BytesLogik LLC >> 📞 (202) 604-6783 >> ✉️ ethan.gordon@byteslogik.com >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "pqc-forum" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to pqc-forum+unsubscribe@list.nist.gov. >> To view this discussion visit >> https://groups.google.com/a/list.nist.gov/d/msgid/pqc-forum/CAChTU-C7cat%3D1qNbZjYus0s8_%3Do9h90yshvWWOr04Uh23qzgqg%40mail.gmail.com >> . >> > > > -- > > Sophie Schmieg | Information Security Engineer | ISE Crypto | > sschmieg@google.com > > > _______________________________________________ > CFRG mailing list -- cfrg@irtf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to cfrg-leave@irtf.org > -- Best regards, Kathleen
- [CFRG] NIST Michael Scott
- [CFRG] Re: NIST Kathleen Moriarty
- [CFRG] Re: [pqc-forum] NIST Sophie Schmieg
- [CFRG] Re: [pqc-forum] NIST Salz, Rich
- [CFRG] Re: [pqc-forum] NIST Kathleen Moriarty
- [CFRG] Re: [pqc-forum] NIST John Mattsson
- [CFRG] Re: [pqc-forum] NIST Kathleen Moriarty
- [CFRG] Re: [pqc-forum] NIST Loganaden Velvindron
- [CFRG] Re: [pqc-forum] NIST oxmon
- [CFRG] Re: [pqc-forum] NIST Kathleen Moriarty