Re: [Cfrg] Requesting removal of CFRG co-chair

"Dan Harkins" <dharkins@lounge.org> Sun, 22 December 2013 08:22 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] Requesting removal of CFRG co-chair
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On Sat, December 21, 2013 4:38 pm, Watson Ladd wrote:
> The CFRG cochair does not have the ability to declare the result of a
> last call that
> never happened because he personally supports a proposal.

  Huh?

> The purpose of the CFRG is not to create standards. It is to advance the
> usage
> of cryptography and improve the security of the Internet. The abuses of
> process
> committed by Kevin directly harm that goal by enabling a protocol to
> shortcut
> the LC process in the CFRG, and thus avoid serious discussion.

  What process are you talking about? There was no LC declared and
certainly no process that required one before an answer could be
provided back to the TLS WG.

  You seem to have invented a process, declared Kevin Igoe in violation
of it, and concocted a conspiracy theory to explain it all.

  Dan.