Re: [Cfrg] ISE seeks help with some crypto drafts

"Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL" <uri@ll.mit.edu> Sun, 10 March 2019 02:17 UTC

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From: "Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL" <uri@ll.mit.edu>
To: Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com>, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>
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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] ISE seeks help with some crypto drafts
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I would be OK with that statement.

 

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Uri 

 

From: Cfrg <cfrg-bounces@irtf.org> on behalf of Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com>
Date: Saturday, March 9, 201910 at 17:18
To: Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>
Cc: "sec-ads@ietf.org" <sec-ads@ietf.org>, CFRG <cfrg@irtf.org>, "RFC ISE (Adrian Farrel)" <rfc-ise@rfc-editor.org>, secdir <secdir@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Cfrg] ISE seeks help with some crypto drafts

 

On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 2:08 PM Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> wrote:

The answer to "is TLS 1.3 (a standard) using OCB3 (no a standard) a 
standards-track protocol" is not obvious. Well, some people would say it 
is obvious, but would disagree on the value of the boolean response.

 

Here is the specific wording he is suggesting:

 

 "Phillip Rogaway offers a royalty-free non-exclusive license to all claims of the referenced patents needed to realize a fully compliant implementation of any IETF standards-track protocol supporting AES-OCB (RFC 7253)."

 

I think he's looking for guidance around how to properly phrase that if anyone has a more concrete suggestion for how to put it in the form of an IPR statement.

 

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Tony Arcieri