Re: [CFRG] Off-topic - Re: HPKE and AEAD Authentication Tag Length

Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org> Tue, 24 August 2021 22:20 UTC

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This discussion is off-topic for this list – please take it elsewhere.

Colin


> On 24 Aug 2021, at 23:07, denis bider <denisbider.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Don't want to spend too much time going off-topic, but:
> 
> This mass hysteria is not organic. It is being deliberately caused by
> mass media and governments, which are using every single manipulative
> approach used by cults.
> 
> Take a look at this image, which represents Biderman's Chart of
> Coercion (cca 1956). Compare this to what governments and the media
> are doing:
> 
> https://i.imgur.com/lSjqIsa.jpg
> 
> This is NOT innocuous. Governments and media across the world do not
> just coincidentally come together and do this.
> 
> denis
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 1:48 AM Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> wrote:
>> 
>> On 8/23/21 9:13 PM, Peter Gutmann wrote:
>>> Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> quotes:
>>> 
>>>> "knowledgeable security professionals should be able to manage the risks in
>>>> connection with [a targeted forgery attack"
>>> It's "What is an example of the No True Scotsman Fallacy?", Alex.  Do I get my
>>> $400?
>> 
>>    ZZZZzzzzzzztttt! Wrong answer. It's not an appeal to purity, it's
>> just an
>> observation that people who know what they're doing should know how to
>> manage
>> risk.
>> 
>>   Of course, in this day and age of entire countries shuttering over a
>> single case of a viral infection (1 person out of 5,000,000) perhaps such an
>> observation is quaint and nostalgic. Alas, no $400 for you but be sure to stay in
>> your bubble and don't you dare speak to your neighbors.
>> 
>>   Dan.
>> 
>> --
>> "The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to
>> escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
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