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Re: [Cfrg] New Version Notification for draft-whyte-select-pkc-qsh-00.txt

"Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL" <uri@ll.mit.edu> Mon, 21 September 2015 21:49 UTC

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On 9/21/15, 17:39 , "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> wrote:

>>Though with an Open Source library the patent holder may have a harder
>> time proving damages to cause you trouble.
>
>Taking them to court is usually more than enough to cause the project
>trouble.

Yes, you’re right.

I don’t know what to do with cases when a patent holder is allowing
royalty-free use of his algorithms within IETF protocols, but does not
want to completely release the patent to public domain. If you say “don’t
consider it unless it is royalty-free with no restrictions, period” - I
can live with that.

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