Re: [Cfrg] Patents and the new elliptic curves
Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Wed, 17 September 2014 12:01 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] Patents and the new elliptic curves
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I am not a lawyer. But even if I was, I would not be your lawyer. And that makes a huge difference. Expecting any party to issue a free legal opinion on this subject is futile. Microsoft, Google and all the major companies have spent several billion dollars in the past few years on settlements and damages in a long list of patent suits, most of which are utterly devoid of any merit whatsoever. One of the patent cases I was involved in was based on a particularly twisted interpretation of a patent claim that the patent examiner had specifically excluded in the patent prosecution history. My concern here is not the risk of a lawsuit against my employer, it is the risk of a lawsuit against my customers. That said, the ECC patents are very different to the usual software patents. These are not 'do it on the Internet' type 'inventions' and they aren't submarine patents with claims on stuff invented by other people in continuations after the application was first filed. These are patents making claims about very specific inventions. And the original patents on the principal inventions were filed between 1985 and 1990.
- [Cfrg] Patents and the new elliptic curves Michael Hamburg
- Re: [Cfrg] Patents and the new elliptic curves Benjamin Black
- Re: [Cfrg] Patents and the new elliptic curves Michael Hamburg
- Re: [Cfrg] Patents and the new elliptic curves Michael Hamburg
- Re: [Cfrg] Patents and the new elliptic curves Benjamin Black
- Re: [Cfrg] Patents and the new elliptic curves Watson Ladd
- Re: [Cfrg] Patents and the new elliptic curves Alyssa Rowan
- Re: [Cfrg] Patents and the new elliptic curves Benjamin Black
- Re: [Cfrg] Patents and the new elliptic curves Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] Patents and the new elliptic curves Michael Hamburg
- Re: [Cfrg] Patents and the new elliptic curves Blumenthal, Uri - 0558 - MITLL
- Re: [Cfrg] Patents and the new elliptic curves Alyssa Rowan
- Re: [Cfrg] Patents and the new elliptic curves Harry Halpin
- Re: [Cfrg] Patents and the new elliptic curves Blumenthal, Uri - 0558 - MITLL
- Re: [Cfrg] Patents and the new elliptic curves Dan Harkins
- Re: [Cfrg] Patents and the new elliptic curves David Jacobson
- Re: [Cfrg] Patents and the new elliptic curves Michael Hamburg
- Re: [Cfrg] Patents and the new elliptic curves Harry Halpin
- Re: [Cfrg] Patents and the new elliptic curves Watson Ladd