Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred curves around 256bit work factor (ends on March 3rd)
Derek Atkins <derek@ihtfp.com> Wed, 25 February 2015 16:53 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred curves around 256bit work factor (ends on March 3rd)
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Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> writes: > Do we have figures for performance of these versus RSA2048? Why are you looking at RSA 2048? That's only a 2^112 work factor (C.f. Section 1 of RFC4492). If you want a 2^256 work factor you need to go up to RSA 15360. If you only want to get to 2^128 then you need to look at RSA 3072. Let's at least compare apples to apples. > Yes, we get a reversal of the public/private speed advantage on signature. And > that in itself is a huge win on the server side > > RSA signature verification takes 0.16 ms on a reasonably current machine > (signature is 6ms) > > http://www.cryptopp.com/benchmarks.html > > How much faster/slower one curve is over another matters much less to me than > whether the curve is faster or slower than what I am already using. I am not > going to be using P521 or P448 curves on a constrained device, I will go for > P255. > > If we had figures comparing the curve candidates to RSA it would probably be > illuminating. For the record, I have no opinion on which curves to look at; I would want to find the best "bang-for-the-buck" curve in terms of performance and security. And if 521 is better than 512 in terms of performance I don't see the extra 9 bits of data as being a deployment issue. -derek -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 derek@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant
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- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Watson Ladd
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Stephen Farrell
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- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Phillip Hallam-Baker
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- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Adam Langley
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Paul Lambert
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- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Watson Ladd
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