[CFRG] Re: Request for adoption: Signature modes guidance / draft-harvey-cfrg-mtl-mode-03
"D. J. Bernstein" <djb@cr.yp.to> Wed, 07 August 2024 22:27 UTC
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Subject: [CFRG] Re: Request for adoption: Signature modes guidance / draft-harvey-cfrg-mtl-mode-03
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Russ Housley writes: > I would like to see the CFRG publish an algorithm description for MTL > mode. People have been experimenting with it at the IETF Hackathon, > and that may lead to some very helpful information about where the MTL > mode is advantageous. Also, these developers are aware of the > license, and they still were willing to donate their time to experiment. Participation in a hackathon is a minor time commitment. Sure, it's more interactive than going to a conference and listening to talks, but it still doesn't tell us what company lawyers will approve deploying. License restrictions are common. Misleading summaries of licenses are common. Lawyers won't trust claims that there's a "public, royalty-free license"; lawyers will look at what the license actually says. Again, I don't think most companies will find this particular license adequate. ---D. J. Bernstein
- [CFRG] Request for adoption: Signature modes guid… Kaliski, Burt
- [CFRG] Re: Request for adoption: Signature modes … D. J. Bernstein
- [CFRG] Re: Request for adoption: Signature modes … Richard Barnes
- [CFRG] Re: Request for adoption: Signature modes … Kathleen Moriarty
- [CFRG] Re: Request for adoption: Signature modes … Colin Perkins
- [CFRG] Re: Request for adoption: Signature modes … Stephen Farrell
- [CFRG] Re: Request for adoption: Signature modes … Richard Barnes
- [CFRG] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Request for adoption: S… Mike Ounsworth
- [CFRG] Re: Request for adoption: Signature modes … S Moonesamy
- [CFRG] Re: Request for adoption: Signature modes … Watson Ladd
- [CFRG] Re: Request for adoption: Signature modes … Russ Housley
- [CFRG] Re: Request for adoption: Signature modes … D. J. Bernstein
- [CFRG] Re: Request for adoption: Signature modes … Kaliski, Burt
- [CFRG] Re: Request for adoption: Signature modes … Phillip Hallam-Baker