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Re: [CFRG] please use real names (was: Re: Small subgroup question for draft-irtf-cfrg-hash-to-curve)

Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> Sun, 11 April 2021 04:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: [CFRG] please use real names (was: Re: Small subgroup question for draft-irtf-cfrg-hash-to-curve)
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On 4/10/21 5:50 PM, Scott Arciszewski wrote:
> To add to this, there are a lot of people who are harmed by real name 
> policies.
>
> https://geekfeminism.wikia.org/wiki/Who_is_harmed_by_a_%22Real_Names%22_policy%3F 
> <https://geekfeminism.wikia.org/wiki/Who_is_harmed_by_a_%22Real_Names%22_policy%3F>


   I'm sorry, that is just ridiculous.

     "People whose names subject them to discrimination based on race, 
religion,
      cultural and/or socio-economic bias: for example, anyone named 
'Mohammed'"

Guess what the most popular given name in the world is? Yup, that's right.

No one is bullying anyone here. Please keep such political nonsense out
of this technical group.

> We should be very cautious with implementing a policy that causes harm 
> to vulnerable populations.

   Might I suggest those who are confused look at the editor list of the
I-D in question (specifically page 163) which belies any concerns about
"vulnerable populations" and anonymity.

   Dan.


> On Sat, Apr 10, 2021, 8:47 PM Filippo Valsorda <filippo@ml.filippo.io 
> <mailto:filippo@ml.filippo.io>> wrote:
>
>     2021-04-10 17:34 GMT+02:00 Rene Struik <rstruik.ext@gmail.com
>     <mailto:rstruik.ext%40gmail.com>>:
>>     Hi "rsw":
>>
>>     As a general courtesy, may I suggest that all communications use
>>     people's real names and not some obscure acronym.
>>
>>     The CFRG is supposed to be a research forum, where people do not
>>     hide
>>     their identity. In fact, in my opinion, IETF should have no place
>>     for
>>     communications by "anonymous".
>
>     I am not aware of any real name rules in IETF forums.
>
>     The field of cryptography has benefited greatly from the
>     contributions of pseudonymous and anonymous people, so I see no
>     reason why the /Crypto Forum Research Group/ should exclude them.
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