[CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece drafts
Harry Halpin <hhalpin@ibiblio.org> Mon, 27 January 2025 12:31 UTC
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Subject: [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece drafts
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We are also working to deploy Classic McEliece in our VPN software: https://nym.com. The SimpleX chat protocol is using Classic McEliece: https://simplex.chat At least my company, Nym, would be disappointed if IETF protocols and algorithms were limited to NIST-approved post-quantum cryptography. As an advisor of the Progressive International ( https://progressive.international) various governments outside of the USA and Western Europe that we work with (mostly in Latin America, and I happen am in Middle East rn) would also be disappointed. Although everyone in the US (and many in Europe) have forgotten the Snowden revelations, including the problematic relationship between NIST and NSA, various governments and organizations in the Global South do tend to trust DJB-approved crypto more than NIST-approved crypto. Of course, we want to avoid too many algorithmic options, but that is not the case with Classic McEliece. In general, support of NIST should not preclude other deployed non-NIST approved algorithms if there is reasonable evidence of deployment, although reasonable people may disagree on what is reasonable. Yours, Harry On Mon 27 Jan 2025 at 2:40 PM, D. J. Bernstein <djb@cr.yp.to> wrote: > More data points regarding Classic McEliece deployment: > https://mceliece.org > > Rationale for deployment: https://classic.mceliece.org/talks/20240917.pdf > > ---D. J. Bernstein > > _______________________________________________ > CFRG mailing list -- cfrg@irtf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to cfrg-leave@irtf.org >
- [CFRG] Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece dra… Watson Ladd
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Loganaden Velvindron
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Thom Wiggers
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Loganaden Velvindron
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… D. J. Bernstein
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Harry Halpin
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… John Mattsson
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Martin Thomson
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Simon Josefsson
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… John Mattsson
- [CFRG] Re: [EXT] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classi… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Eric Rescorla
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… D. J. Bernstein
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Thom Wiggers
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Kris Kwiatkowski
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… John Mattsson
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Quynh Dang
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Thom Wiggers
- [CFRG] Re: [EXT] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classi… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… John Mattsson
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Hale, Britta (CIV)
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Sofia Celi
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Sofia Celi
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Eric Rescorla
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… D. J. Bernstein
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Deirdre Connolly
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Deirdre Connolly
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Simon Hoerder
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… John Mattsson
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Deirdre Connolly
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Watson Ladd
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… John Mattsson
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Quynh Dang
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Eric Rescorla