Re: [Cfrg] Response to the request to remove CFRG co-chair
Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Sat, 11 January 2014 13:05 UTC
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Cc: Adam Back <adam@cypherspace.org>, "cfrg@irtf.org" <cfrg@irtf.org>, David McGrew <mcgrew@cisco.com>, irtf-chair@irtf.org, IAB IAB <iab@iab.org>
Subject: Re: [Cfrg] Response to the request to remove CFRG co-chair
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Trevor, On 01/11/2014 05:07 AM, Trevor Perrin wrote: > It's imperative we send the message that subversion of crypto > standards is unacceptable. Imperative? Sigh. (Due to rhetoric-overload:-) I don't agree as it happens, I think any statement of principle along those lines is either included in the URLs I sent before, or [1-4] below, or would likely be stating the obvious. Brian Carpenter's presentation at the Vancouver tech plenary might also be useful background. [5] If there were a non-targetted (i.e. not directly dissing NSA or GCHQ or whoever) statement of principle along those lines that usefully added to the stuff I've referenced then I'd be interested in that but I don't see what it might be to be honest. S. [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1984 [2] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3365 [3] http://www.ietf.org/media/2013-11-07-internet-privacy-and-security.html [4] http://www.ietf.org/blog/2013/09/security-and-pervasive-monitoring/ [5] http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/88/slides/slides-88-iab-techplenary-7.pdf
- [Cfrg] Response to the request to remove CFRG co-… Eggert, Lars
- Re: [Cfrg] Response to the request to remove CFRG… Alyssa Rowan
- Re: [Cfrg] Response to the request to remove CFRG… Trevor Perrin
- Re: [Cfrg] Response to the request to remove CFRG… Adam Back
- Re: [Cfrg] Response to the request to remove CFRG… Greg Rose
- Re: [Cfrg] [IAB] Response to the request to remov… Trevor Perrin
- Re: [Cfrg] Response to the request to remove CFRG… David McGrew
- Re: [Cfrg] Response to the request to remove CFRG… Adam Back
- Re: [Cfrg] Response to the request to remove CFRG… John Viega
- Re: [Cfrg] Response to the request to remove CFRG… Watson Ladd
- Re: [Cfrg] Response to the request to remove CFRG… Adam Back
- Re: [Cfrg] Response to the request to remove CFRG… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] Response to the request to remove CFRG… Trevor Perrin
- Re: [Cfrg] Response to the request to remove CFRG… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] Response to the request to remove CFRG… Trevor Perrin
- Re: [Cfrg] Response to the request to remove CFRG… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] Response to the request to remove CFRG… Watson Ladd
- Re: [Cfrg] Response to the request to remove CFRG… Dan Harkins
- Re: [Cfrg] Response to the request to remove CFRG… Trevor Perrin
- Re: [Cfrg] Response to the request to remove CFRG… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] [IAB] Response to the request to remov… Trevor Perrin