[CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece drafts
"D. J. Bernstein" <djb@cr.yp.to> Sat, 01 February 2025 21:49 UTC
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Subject: [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece drafts
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Eric Rescorla writes: > Simon Josefsson [...] wrote: > > Defering authority on crypto primitives to NIST is implied by many > > suggestions made IETF-wide right now. > i haven't seen anyone suggest that CFRG should not publish its own > specifications regardless of what NIST does. Some quotes in 2024 from IETF security-area directors: * "CFRG does not analyse or evaluate cryptography itself" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/120/materials/slides-120-saag-cryptography-at-the-ietf) * "SEC AD Proposal: Limit publication of crypto RFCs" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/120/materials/slides-120-saag-cryptography-at-the-ietf) * "the cryptographic research communities are focusing on NIST candidates" (https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/saag/9e1QheO1L6SVBX3a8mFSij9AgHw/) * "Should the IETF really recommend a dropped candidate at this stage? I do not think so" (https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/saag/9e1QheO1L6SVBX3a8mFSij9AgHw/) The details of the "limit publication" proposal weren't clearly stated, but included an "outside the IETF" criterion that sounded like it would eliminate IETF (in the broad sense, including IRTF) as an independent source of cryptographic standards---presumably rubber-stamping NIST's decisions instead, as one sees in the last link. ---D. J. Bernstein
- [CFRG] Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece dra… Watson Ladd
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Loganaden Velvindron
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Thom Wiggers
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Loganaden Velvindron
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… D. J. Bernstein
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Harry Halpin
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… John Mattsson
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Martin Thomson
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Simon Josefsson
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… John Mattsson
- [CFRG] Re: [EXT] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classi… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Eric Rescorla
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… D. J. Bernstein
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Thom Wiggers
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Kris Kwiatkowski
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… John Mattsson
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Quynh Dang
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Thom Wiggers
- [CFRG] Re: [EXT] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classi… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… John Mattsson
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Hale, Britta (CIV)
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Sofia Celi
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Sofia Celi
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Eric Rescorla
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… D. J. Bernstein
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Deirdre Connolly
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Deirdre Connolly
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Simon Hoerder
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… John Mattsson
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Deirdre Connolly
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Watson Ladd
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… John Mattsson
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Quynh Dang
- [CFRG] Re: Progressing NTRUPrime/Classic McEliece… Eric Rescorla