Re: [CFRG] CFRG Digest, Vol 197, Issue 6

Yumi Sakemi <yumi.sakemi@infours.co.jp> Tue, 07 September 2021 14:27 UTC

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Dear Dr. Kim

Thank you for your message of support for our activities.
In addition to Prof. Scott, I’m so glad to receive encouraging
messages from two experts of pairing-friendly curves in research.

Best regards,
Yumi

2021年9月7日(火) 16:09 Taechan Kim <yoshiki1@snu.ac.kr>kr>:
>
> Dear Stanislav,
>
> Thanks for your clarification!
> I understand this proposal is for informational RFC.
> Thanks for your correction of my mis-expression.
>
> Best regards,
> Taechan
>
> 2021년 9월 7일 (화) 오후 3:42, <cfrg-request@irtf.org>님이 작성:
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>>    1. Re: CFRG Digest, Vol 197, Issue 4 (Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 09:42:31 +0300
>> From: "Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev" <smyshsv@gmail.com>
>> To: Taechan Kim <yoshiki1@snu.ac.kr>
>> Cc: cfrg@irtf.org
>> Subject: Re: [CFRG] CFRG Digest, Vol 197, Issue 4
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>> Dear Taechan,
>>
>> Thank you for your email!
>>
>> At the same time, as Colin Perkins emphasized yesterday in his message, the
>> draft is targeting publication as an Informational RFC (as long as other
>> CFRG documents), not a Standards Track document, so ?standardized? doesn?t
>> seem to be a suitable word.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Stanislav
>>
>> On Tue, 7 Sep 2021 at 08:59, Taechan Kim <yoshiki1@snu.ac.kr> wrote:
>>
>> > I also strongly support the acceptance of this proposal.
>> > As no one might doubt here, pairing-friendly cryptography has lots of
>> > interesting applications.
>> > Moreover, a follow-up result by De Micheli, Gaudry, and Pierrot (
>> > https://eprint.iacr.org/2021/707.pdf) shows the implementational
>> > feasibility of my algorithm with Barbulescu.
>> > For crypto-agility, I think there is no reason to delay the
>> > standardization of this proposal.
>> > I would be happy to see this proposal be standardized.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> > Taechan
>> >
>> > 2021? 9? 7? (?) ?? 4:00, <cfrg-request@irtf.org>?? ??:
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>> >>    1. Re: Second RGLC on draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves
>> >>       (Colin Perkins)
>> >>    2. Re: Second RGLC on draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves
>> >>       (Yumi Sakemi)
>> >>    3. Re: Second RGLC on draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves
>> >>       (Yumi Sakemi)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 1
>> >> Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 14:20:39 +0100
>> >> From: Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org>
>> >> To: Michael Scott <mike.scott=40miracl.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
>> >> Cc: "Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev" <smyshsv@gmail.com>om>, CFRG
>> >>         <cfrg@irtf.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: [CFRG] Second RGLC on
>> >>         draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves
>> >> Message-ID: <6B079E60-5A57-444B-A620-E85A163CFEF8@csperkins.org>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> >>
>> >> To clarify, since this issue comes up frequently: the CFRG is an IRTF
>> >> research group, and does not develop standards.
>> >>
>> >> The pairing friendly curves draft is targeting publication as an
>> >> Informational RFC.
>> >>
>> >> Colin
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > On 6 Sep 2021, at 08:41, Michael Scott <mike.scott=
>> >> 40miracl.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I would like to reiterate my support for this proposed standard. The
>> >> authors have diligently responded to earlier feedback, the pairing-friendly
>> >> curves proposed have not received any substantive criticism, and in some
>> >> cases have already been widely adopted. Therefore in my view this draft
>> >> standard is ready to progress.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike Scott
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 4:40 PM Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev <
>> >> smyshsv@gmail.com <mailto:smyshsv@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >> > Dear CFRG participants,
>> >> >
>> >> > This message starts a second RGLC on "Pairing-Friendly Curves"
>> >> (draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves-10), that will end on September,
>> >> 8th.
>> >> >
>> >> > See
>> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves/
>> >> <
>> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves/>
>> >> for the latest version of the draft.
>> >> >
>> >> > We are having the second RGLC since Yumi Sakemi has provided (see
>> >> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cfrg/-1nTbbVRlkP5wV2odEYFac-jK08/ <
>> >> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cfrg/-1nTbbVRlkP5wV2odEYFac-jK08/>)
>> >> updated replies for the questions raised after the first RGLC.
>> >> >
>> >> > Please send your comments, as well as expression of support to publish
>> >> as an RFC (or possible reasons for not doing so) in reply to this message
>> >> or directly to CFRG chairs.
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> > Stanislav, Nick and Alexey
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > CFRG mailing list
>> >> > CFRG@irtf.org <mailto:CFRG@irtf.org>
>> >> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg <
>> >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg>
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>> >> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg
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>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Colin Perkins
>> >> https://csperkins.org/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >> Message: 2
>> >> Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 23:26:31 +0900
>> >> From: Yumi Sakemi <yumi.sakemi@infours.co.jp>
>> >> To: Michael Scott <mike.scott=40miracl.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
>> >> Cc: CFRG <cfrg@irtf.org>rg>, SAITO Tsunekazu
>> >>         <tsunekazu.saito.hg@hco.ntt.co.jp>jp>,  Tetsutaro Kobayashi
>> >>         <tetsutaro.kobayashi.dr@hco.ntt.co.jp>
>> >> Subject: Re: [CFRG] Second RGLC on
>> >>         draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves
>> >> Message-ID:
>> >>         <
>> >> CAA4D8KZdRoHHy-ZHwMHe4+ZHgtPtcqhM9uWe_TjK64OKnTov2A@mail.gmail.com>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> >>
>> >> Dear Prof. Scott
>> >>
>> >> I appreciate your support and encouraging messages about our
>> >> activities of pairing-friendly curves.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Yumi
>> >>
>> >> 2021?9?6?(?) 22:21 Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org>rg>:
>> >> >
>> >> > To clarify, since this issue comes up frequently: the CFRG is an IRTF
>> >> research group, and does not develop standards.
>> >> >
>> >> > The pairing friendly curves draft is targeting publication as an
>> >> Informational RFC.
>> >> >
>> >> > Colin
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 6 Sep 2021, at 08:41, Michael Scott <mike.scott=
>> >> 40miracl.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I would like to reiterate my support for this proposed standard. The
>> >> authors have diligently responded to earlier feedback, the pairing-friendly
>> >> curves proposed have not received any substantive criticism, and in some
>> >> cases have already been widely adopted. Therefore in my view this draft
>> >> standard is ready to progress.
>> >> >
>> >> > Mike Scott
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 4:40 PM Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev <
>> >> smyshsv@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dear CFRG participants,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This message starts a second RGLC on "Pairing-Friendly Curves"
>> >> (draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves-10), that will end on September,
>> >> 8th.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> See
>> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves/
>> >> for the latest version of the draft.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We are having the second RGLC since Yumi Sakemi has provided (see
>> >> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cfrg/-1nTbbVRlkP5wV2odEYFac-jK08/)
>> >> updated replies for the questions raised after the first RGLC.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Please send your comments, as well as expression of support to publish
>> >> as an RFC (or possible reasons for not doing so) in reply to this message
>> >> or directly to CFRG chairs.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >> Stanislav, Nick and Alexey
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> CFRG mailing list
>> >> >> CFRG@irtf.org
>> >> >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg
>> >> >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > CFRG mailing list
>> >> > CFRG@irtf.org
>> >> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Colin Perkins
>> >> > https://csperkins.org/
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > CFRG mailing list
>> >> > CFRG@irtf.org
>> >> > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Yumi Sakemi, Ph. D.
>> >>  Infours Inc.
>> >>
>> >> E-Mail: yumi.sakemi@infours.co.jp
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 3
>> >> Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 23:49:49 +0900
>> >> From: Yumi Sakemi <yumi.sakemi@infours.co.jp>
>> >> To: csp@csperkins.org
>> >> Cc: CFRG <cfrg@irtf.org>rg>, SAITO Tsunekazu
>> >>         <tsunekazu.saito.hg@hco.ntt.co.jp>jp>,  Tetsutaro Kobayashi
>> >>         <tetsutaro.kobayashi.dr@hco.ntt.co.jp>
>> >> Subject: Re: [CFRG] Second RGLC on
>> >>         draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves
>> >> Message-ID:
>> >>         <CAA4D8Kbvg+Zj5WAP2xOCV0rT8cYFD1FzFEA_h=
>> >> P2rwRmGeFRRQ@mail.gmail.com>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> >>
>> >> Dear Prof. Colin Perkins
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for clarifying our situation/status of activities with
>> >> accurate information.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Yumi
>> >>
>> >> 2021?9?6?(?) 23:26 Yumi Sakemi <yumi.sakemi@infours.co.jp>jp>:
>> >> >
>> >> > Dear Prof. Scott
>> >> >
>> >> > I appreciate your support and encouraging messages about our
>> >> > activities of pairing-friendly curves.
>> >> >
>> >> > Best regards,
>> >> > Yumi
>> >> >
>> >> > 2021?9?6?(?) 22:21 Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org>rg>:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > To clarify, since this issue comes up frequently: the CFRG is an IRTF
>> >> research group, and does not develop standards.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > The pairing friendly curves draft is targeting publication as an
>> >> Informational RFC.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Colin
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On 6 Sep 2021, at 08:41, Michael Scott <mike.scott=
>> >> 40miracl.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I would like to reiterate my support for this proposed standard. The
>> >> authors have diligently responded to earlier feedback, the pairing-friendly
>> >> curves proposed have not received any substantive criticism, and in some
>> >> cases have already been widely adopted. Therefore in my view this draft
>> >> standard is ready to progress.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Mike Scott
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 4:40 PM Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev <
>> >> smyshsv@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Dear CFRG participants,
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> This message starts a second RGLC on "Pairing-Friendly Curves"
>> >> (draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves-10), that will end on September,
>> >> 8th.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> See
>> >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-cfrg-pairing-friendly-curves/
>> >> for the latest version of the draft.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> We are having the second RGLC since Yumi Sakemi has provided (see
>> >> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/cfrg/-1nTbbVRlkP5wV2odEYFac-jK08/)
>> >> updated replies for the questions raised after the first RGLC.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Please send your comments, as well as expression of support to
>> >> publish as an RFC (or possible reasons for not doing so) in reply to this
>> >> message or directly to CFRG chairs.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Regards,
>> >> > >> Stanislav, Nick and Alexey
>> >> > >> _______________________________________________
>> >> > >> CFRG mailing list
>> >> > >> CFRG@irtf.org
>> >> > >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg
>> >> > >
>> >> > > _______________________________________________
>> >> > > CFRG mailing list
>> >> > > CFRG@irtf.org
>> >> > > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > Colin Perkins
>> >> > > https://csperkins.org/
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > _______________________________________________
>> >> > > CFRG mailing list
>> >> > > CFRG@irtf.org
>> >> > > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Yumi Sakemi, Ph. D.
>> >> >  Infours Inc.
>> >> >
>> >> > E-Mail: yumi.sakemi@infours.co.jp
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Yumi Sakemi, Ph. D.
>> >>  Infours Inc.
>> >>
>> >> E-Mail: yumi.sakemi@infours.co.jp
>> >>
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