Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves
Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Mon, 08 September 2014 14:42 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves
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Hiya, Good job and good to see this progressing towards completion. Thanks for both. On 08/09/14 11:23, Paterson, Kenny wrote: > > SE5. Required: each set of curve parameters should be generated by a > well-defined procedure that allows only a limited and quantified amount of > flexibility. If the selected procedure involves the choice of an initial > seed, then the seed will be selected by multiple independent parties using > a procedure having the property that no collusion of all but one or fewer > of the parties can exert any control over the chosen seed. [RC] A clarification question: the above reads a bit like the result has to be a curve that hasn't yet been documented. I assume that its ok if e.g. 25519 and/or one of msft's are picked and that this is not meant to rule those out. It might be worth stating that e.g. along the lines of "Note that SE5 does not rule out selection of an already documented curve or curves should there be consensus that this requirement has been met sufficiently." If you do mean to rule those out, then I think that really would need to be crystal clear. Other than that: On IN1 and IN2 I agree with William's comment. And since that is to the effect that those don't help or hinder selections I'm ok with the text as-is. On IP1, I do agree with the intent, but that might need to be reworded to keep everyone happy - one can never know for sure that royalty-free anything is possible. But I'm ok with the wording as-is, since adding the equivalent of "as far as its possible to know" doesn't matter so much given that CFRG cannot afaik yet do the impossible;-) Ta, S.
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Paterson, Kenny
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves William Whyte
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Paterson, Kenny
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Paterson, Kenny
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Watson Ladd
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Paterson, Kenny
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves David Jacobson
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves D. J. Bernstein
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Michael Hamburg
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Paterson, Kenny
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Adam Langley
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Paterson, Kenny
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Adam Langley
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Damien Miller
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Damien Miller
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Torsten Schuetze
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Markulf Kohlweiss
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Alyssa Rowan
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Michael Hamburg
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Michael Hamburg
- Re: [Cfrg] revised requirements for new curves Andrey Jivsov
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