Re: [Cfrg] Camellia as an Japanese national cipher

Yoav Nir <ynir@checkpoint.com> Mon, 22 October 2012 06:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] Camellia as an Japanese national cipher
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On Oct 22, 2012, at 1:57 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote:

> On Oct 21, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Jon Callas <jon@callas.org> wrote:
> 
>> If you want to be doing things in Japan, you need to use Camellia. 
> 
> Are you sure of that? I ask because a few years ago, I had a discussion with the Camellia authors about some new work, and their slides made me question "how much of a national standard is this?" Their answer was extremely non-commital, and they never followed up.
> 
> I ask this not to poke at Camellia or the authors, but to find out if CFRG needs to group Camellia/Japan with GOST/Russia.

[vendor hat on]

My company sells IPsec and TLS VPN products all over the world, including Russia, Japan, Korea, and China. The main version of our product supports "western" ciphers - AES, 3DES, RC4. The only customers who have ever asked for a product that supports their national cipher are from Russia. We've never been asked to implement Camelia or SEED.

So our product sells all around the world with just two versions: regular and GOST.

Yoav