Re: [Cfrg] Side channel attack and Edwards curves...
Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Wed, 05 July 2017 23:16 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] Side channel attack and Edwards curves...
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On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker < > phill@hallambaker.com> wrote: > >> Just another side channel attack and not something that bothers me >> writing reference code. But have we maybe put our eggs in the Montgomery >> ladder basket when maybe we should have gone for 'randomly split the >> private key into two parts, perform two separate multiplications with each >> part and add the result'. >> > > I'm not sure why you're talking about Montgomery vs Edwards here. This is > a Flush+Reload attack similar to: > You can blind in either. But if you are going to blind then a lot of the advantages of Montgomery start to collapse. because you have to do that add stage. > - "Just A Little Bit": https://eprint.iacr.org/2014/161.pdf > - "Just A Little Bit More": https://eprint.iacr.org/2014/434.pdf > - Cachebleed: https://eprint.iacr.org/2016/224.pdf > > If there was a conclusion I drew from these attacks, it's the need to > include random values, as the security proofs say we should do. > > I will note that BoringSSL was not vulnerable to Cachebleed because they > continued to use random blinding in addition to Intel's allegedly "constant > time" RSA code. Though many are quick to dismiss it, random blinding seems > to provide defenses against a multitude of attacks, not just cache timing > but DPA as well. > > -- > Tony Arcieri >
- [Cfrg] Side channel attack and Edwards curves... Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] Side channel attack and Edwards curves… Taylor R Campbell
- Re: [Cfrg] Side channel attack and Edwards curves… Tony Arcieri
- Re: [Cfrg] Side channel attack and Edwards curves… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] Side channel attack and Edwards curves… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] Side channel attack and Edwards curves… Tony Arcieri
- Re: [Cfrg] Side channel attack and Edwards curves… Tony Arcieri
- Re: [Cfrg] Side channel attack and Edwards curves… Samuel Neves
- Re: [Cfrg] Side channel attack and Edwards curves… David Jacobson
- Re: [Cfrg] Side channel attack and Edwards curves… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)