[CFRG] Off-topic - Re: HPKE and AEAD Authentication Tag Length

denis bider <denisbider.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 24 August 2021 22:07 UTC

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From: denis bider <denisbider.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2021 17:07:11 -0500
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Subject: [CFRG] Off-topic - Re: HPKE and AEAD Authentication Tag Length
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Don't want to spend too much time going off-topic, but:

This mass hysteria is not organic. It is being deliberately caused by
mass media and governments, which are using every single manipulative
approach used by cults.

Take a look at this image, which represents Biderman's Chart of
Coercion (cca 1956). Compare this to what governments and the media
are doing:

https://i.imgur.com/lSjqIsa.jpg

This is NOT innocuous. Governments and media across the world do not
just coincidentally come together and do this.

denis


On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 1:48 AM Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 8/23/21 9:13 PM, Peter Gutmann wrote:
> > Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> quotes:
> >
> >> "knowledgeable security professionals should be able to manage the risks in
> >> connection with [a targeted forgery attack"
> > It's "What is an example of the No True Scotsman Fallacy?", Alex.  Do I get my
> > $400?
>
>     ZZZZzzzzzzztttt! Wrong answer. It's not an appeal to purity, it's
> just an
> observation that people who know what they're doing should know how to
> manage
> risk.
>
>    Of course, in this day and age of entire countries shuttering over a
> single
> case of a viral infection (1 person out of 5,000,000) perhaps such an
> observation
> is quaint and nostalgic. Alas, no $400 for you but be sure to stay in
> your bubble
> and don't you dare speak to your neighbors.
>
>    Dan.
>
> --
> "The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to
> escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." -- Marcus Aurelius
>
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