Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of draft-ladd-spake2 as a RG document)
Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Tue, 27 January 2015 17:42 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of draft-ladd-spake2 as a RG document)
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Hi Dan, On 27/01/15 16:41, Dan Harkins wrote: > This spells interop problems even if you just adopt DJB's code to > handle curve25519. Special cases will be a continued source of trouble. TBH I think that's a tad overstated. The main thing that seems to be getting lost here is that big endian vs. little endian is not a big deal. Either works and there is little or nothing at stake worth fighting over. I've expressed my slight preference for LE and it's fine that others disagree - I'm sure the chairs and/or editors can write text one way or another and it'll get fixed one way or another before we're done as folks write code and see that it is better or worse one way or the other. In the worst possible case, a very late switch within CFRG from one to the other would add a line of code and an cranky comment - so long as we get that done before people deploy stuff widely. (And the stuff that matters here are specific long term key values and not code so much. If you think back to the DKIM signature format changes the same arguments apply and so for ephemeral DH uses this is something that stays malleable for a while yet.) Moving on without considering this as a hill to die on and getting to a decision before deployment but not necessarily in the next nanosecond seems to me much more important than which of LE vs BE is chosen. S.
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Dan Brown
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Peter Gutmann
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Alyssa Rowan
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Alyssa Rowan
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Michael Clark
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Michael Clark
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Watson Ladd
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Michael Clark
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Peter Gutmann
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Peter Gutmann
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Alyssa Rowan
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Peter Gutmann
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Salz, Rich
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian Derek Atkins
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian Salz, Rich
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian Derek Atkins
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian Derek Atkins
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian Blumenthal, Uri - 0558 - MITLL
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian Watson Ladd
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Dan Harkins
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Watson Ladd
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Andy Lutomirski
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Dan Harkins
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian Tony Arcieri
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Michael Clark
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian Damien Miller
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Watson Ladd
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … D. J. Bernstein
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Dan Harkins
- Re: [Cfrg] Point format endian (was: Adoption of … Watson Ladd