Re: [Cfrg] When's the decision?

Yoav Nir <> Mon, 06 October 2014 15:53 UTC

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Hi Watson.

Just to be clear, you’re referring to the curve decision, right?  Because the WG is also discussing ChaCha, hash signatures and (supposedly) Dragonfly.

I think the conversation about the new curves has dried up, so it’s up to the chairs to call consensus if they can. If it were up to me, I would say that there’s very little separating the different proposals, especially for the ~128-bit strength, meaning that whichever one gets chosen is likely to be accepted (no “Oh, my, you got this so wrong! How could you!  Don’t you care about the kittens?”)  The differences in performance are small enough to not matter, and I don’t think anyone thinks that any of the proposals has some hidden weakness in the carefully chosen parameters.

So with implementer hat on, I’ll quietly wait CFRG to make the decision, and for AGL or DJB or one of the others who know how to write this kind of code securely to contribute code to OpenSSL, and then I’ll happily copy the code from there. If the wrong choice either (a) made my session rate 20% smaller or (b) made me stay up all night delivering security hotfixes, I’d feel strongly about this choice. As it is, I (and I’m sure some others on this list) don’t think it matters that much. They’re all good enough.


On Oct 6, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Watson Ladd <> wrote:

> Dear all,
> We were promised on July 27 a process running for 6 weeks. Doubling I
> get 12 weeks, which is three months, of which two (August, September)
> have already gone. Am I correct in supposing that we're on track for a
> decision by Halloween?
> If we aren't, what remaining issues need to be addressed/when can we
> expect a decision?
> Sincerely,
> Watson Ladd
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