Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred curves around 256bit work factor (ends on March 3rd)
Ilari Liusvaara <ilari.liusvaara@elisanet.fi> Mon, 02 March 2015 14:28 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred curves around 256bit work factor (ends on March 3rd)
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 02:27:58PM +0000, Alexey Melnikov wrote: > CFRG chairs are starting another poll: > > Q3: This is a Quaker poll (please answer one of "preferred", "acceptable" or > "no") for each curve specified below: Considering entiere space for high-security curve... > 1) 448 (Goldilocks) Prefer (high-performance curve with well-characterized performance characteristics, easy to construct signatures). > 2) 480 No (bad performance on 32-bit[1], marginal with signatures) > 3) 521 No (too slow and large for signatures, uncertain security benefits[2]). > 4) other curve (please name another curve that you "prefer" or "accept", or > state "no") p=2^414-17 (accept[3]) [1] This is in contrast to stellar performance at 64-bit. And 32-bit performance still looks to matter (mobile, which is already loaded and slow!) [2] The rho complexities are so high that I think it is meaningless to compare those. Basically, I think that is reasonably likely that anything that can break any one of these curves can break them all (especially at WF200+)[4]. [3] There have been decent amount of performance characterization of this prime, even if there is no good software available. It is WF200+ too. [4] Some examples: 1) Major advances to ECC cryptoanalysis (no telling what that does to ECC) 2) Large quantum computers (totally breaks ECC). 3) Fundamential physics breakthroughs allowing far surpassing current theoretical limits (no telling what that does to computational capability; however I think this is less likely than large QC). -Ilari
- [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred curves … Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Blumenthal, Uri - 0558 - MITLL
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Watson Ladd
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Yoav Nir
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Adam Langley
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Paul Lambert
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Simon Josefsson
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Watson Ladd
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Derek Atkins
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Damien Miller
- [Cfrg] On "non-NIST" Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Cfrg] On "non-NIST" stephen.farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] On "non-NIST" Paul Lambert
- Re: [Cfrg] On "non-NIST" Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Alyssa Rowan
- Re: [Cfrg] On "non-NIST" Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Cfrg] On "non-NIST" Tony Arcieri
- Re: [Cfrg] On "non-NIST" Tony Arcieri
- Re: [Cfrg] On "non-NIST" Damien Miller
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Dan Brown
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Dan Harkins
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… _MiW
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Rene Struik
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… David Leon Gil
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Andy Lutomirski
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Tony Arcieri
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Andrey Jivsov
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… David Gil
- Re: [Cfrg] Rerun: Elliptic Curves - preferred cur… Benjamin Beurdouche
- [Cfrg] Results of the poll: Elliptic Curves - pre… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Cfrg] Results of the poll: Elliptic Curves -… Benjamin Black
- Re: [Cfrg] Results of the poll: Elliptic Curves -… Watson Ladd
- Re: [Cfrg] Results of the poll: Elliptic Curves -… Michael Hamburg
- Re: [Cfrg] Results of the poll: Elliptic Curves -… Benjamin Black
- Re: [Cfrg] Results of the poll: Elliptic Curves -… Benjamin Black
- Re: [Cfrg] Comb algorithm IPR status (was: Result… Alyssa Rowan
- Re: [Cfrg] Comb algorithm IPR status (was: Result… Benjamin Black
- Re: [Cfrg] Comb algorithm IPR status Mike Hamburg
- Re: [Cfrg] Comb algorithm IPR status Alyssa Rowan
- Re: [Cfrg] Comb algorithm IPR status Benjamin Black
- Re: [Cfrg] Comb algorithm IPR status Benjamin Black