Re: [Cfrg] draft-black-rpgecc-00-.txt [was: Consensus and a way forward]

Alyssa Rowan <akr@akr.io> Tue, 02 December 2014 07:59 UTC

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On 02/12/2014 00:18, Benjamin Black wrote:

> If your perspective is that Curve25519 must be adopted, and under
> no circumstances will alternatives be considered, then it will be 
> difficult to reach an accommodation.

That's an odd position, given the extremely close similarity between
PinkBikeShed and Curve25519. Why is that?

On what TECHNICAL ground do you believe PinkBikeShed is superior?

On what SECURITY ground do you reject Curve25519?

What's the blocker for you? Why are you refusing to consider it?
Please answer, clearly.

Because even agl, a co-author of your draft, clearly believes that
what you propose is not the best choice. And if it's clearly not the
best choice, we shouldn't choose it.

If you cannot answer those questions, then it will be difficult to reach
an accommodation.


I think you're wrong; that you're simply unwilling to admit you're
wrong; and you want to compromise on some kind of frankencurve to save
face. But with the greatest respect, your ego has sod all to do with
this. I am unwilling to compromise the quality of cryptography on the
internet to save your ego. Design by committee has always been a very
bad call.


I believe that we will be able to find a rough consensus, and we
certainly have running code, for Curve25519. Pick that one.

I believe that will absolutely not be the case with your proposal.

It is for the chairs to call for consensus: I will leave that to them.

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/akr
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