Re: [Cfrg] The SESPAKE protocol and PAKE requirements
"Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev" <smyshsv@gmail.com> Thu, 25 February 2016 05:39 UTC
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From: "Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev" <smyshsv@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] The SESPAKE protocol and PAKE requirements
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Dear Jörn, Thank you very much for your comments! SESPAKE will of course work with any underlying hash/HMAC/elliptic curve/PBKDF and we’ll prepare a new version of our draft which will explicitly stress it. I do not insist on addition of any specific words about primitives specification in the requirements draft. In contrary to the question with counters handling (our previous discussion), I think it is ok if this issue will be addressed by any author of a draft at his own discretion. Kindest regards, Stanislav 2016-02-23 9:52 GMT+03:00 Schmidt, Jörn-Marc <Joern-Marc.Schmidt@secunet.com >: > Dear Stanislav, > > Thank you for your input! > > >What do you think about defining a policy of algorithm usage in PAKE > protocols? > >For example, in the current version of SESPAKE RFC draft we are based on > Russian standards – GOST R 34.11-2012 hash and HMAC, but of course the > >document that refers only to GOSTs cannot become a CFRG document. > > >Shouldn't we require multi-algorithm support – as in the PAKE > requirements, as in our SESPAKE? > > You mean to add a requirement to state which algorithms can be used as > underlying primitives? > I haven't analyzed SESPAKE in detail - but wouldn't it work with any > cryptographic hash function? > In case a PAKE requires a special property of the underlying hash > function/cipher/etc., I think this could be covered with > "R2: A PAKE scheme SHOULD come with a security proof and clearly state its > assumptions and models." by adding a sentence about useful primitives. > > I personally would leave it up to the designer of the PAKE scheme to > decide whether the scheme mentions a specific primitive (e.g. is specified > using AES & SHA2) or leaves it up to the implementer (e.g. speaking of > block cipher & hash function in an abstract manner). Do you think we should > push in one direction in the requirements draft? > > Best regards, > > Jörn > > > >
- [Cfrg] The SESPAKE protocol and PAKE requirements Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev
- Re: [Cfrg] The SESPAKE protocol and PAKE requirem… Schmidt
- Re: [Cfrg] The SESPAKE protocol and PAKE requirem… Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev
- Re: [Cfrg] The SESPAKE protocol and PAKE requirem… Schmidt
- Re: [Cfrg] The SESPAKE protocol and PAKE requirem… Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev
- Re: [Cfrg] The SESPAKE protocol and PAKE requirem… Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev
- Re: [Cfrg] The SESPAKE protocol and PAKE requirem… Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev
- Re: [Cfrg] The SESPAKE protocol and PAKE requirem… Schmidt
- Re: [Cfrg] The SESPAKE protocol and PAKE requirem… Станислав Смышляев
- Re: [Cfrg] The SESPAKE protocol and PAKE requirem… Schmidt
- Re: [Cfrg] The SESPAKE protocol and PAKE requirem… Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev
- Re: [Cfrg] The SESPAKE protocol and PAKE requirem… Schmidt
- Re: [Cfrg] The SESPAKE protocol and PAKE requirem… Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev
- Re: [Cfrg] The SESPAKE protocol and PAKE requirem… Stanislav V. Smyshlyaev