Comments on the latest draft
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From: {3COM/PDD/PeteW}@pdd.3mail.3com.com
Subject: Comments on the latest draft
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Microsoft Mail v3.0 IPM.Microsoft Mail.Note From: Wilson, Peter To: Chassis MIB Subject: Comments on the latest draft Date: 1993-06-03 11:12 Priority: Message ID: D7FC9577 Conversation ID: D7FC9577 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Comments on the latest Chassis MIB draft. I think the main part of the chassis MIB is basically correct now. My main comments are concerned with the power supply and environment tables. I'm not sure Daves revamped these yet, so I'll comment anyway! I'll cover the major PSU/Environment comments first. 1) The ChasPowerSupplyTable is no longer required. A power supply is a module and so will have an entry in the module table. The only information in this table not also present in the module table are: chasPowerSupplyHealthText, chasPowerSupplyWarnings, chasPowerSupplyFailures. If these are useful then aren't they useful for any module? 2) The chasPowerSupplyOutputTable nneds to be modified. In the new model each type of output can be considered a resource of a particular module. For example suppose there are two PSU modules each of which have a 12V and 5V output. The model will map this as: Module Table Resource Table Entity Table ====================================================================== PSU Module 1 <------- PSU Module 1, Resource 1 --------> 5V PSU Entity PSU Module 1 <------- PSU Module 1, Resource 2 --------> 12V PSU Entity PSU Module 1 <------- PSU Module 1, Resource 1 --------> 5V PSU Entity PSU Module 1 <------- PSU Module 1, Resource 2 --------> 12V PSU Entity The information in the output table then is extra information for the supply resources. As such the index on this table should change to be the same as the resource table (locationType, instance, resourceId). Another advantage is that the output resource is now identified by it's location which it was not before. If a supply failed to deliver correct voltage and there were several 5V resources there was no way to know which had failed. 3) Sensor Table. A sensor is also a resource of the chassis. This table needs to change in a similar way to the power supply output table. The indices should be locationType, instance and resource. This has the advantage again that if there are multiple sensors of a particular type, a specific sensor can be identified by its location. This also removed the need for the OID to identify the sensor type (chasEnvironSensor). Sensors are an interesting chassis concept for the model. Every resource should map to some entity, but individual entities are only required to distinguish a particular agent or context. To map sensors in a chassis simply provide a 'chassis' entity that contains all the sensors and specifies that they are visible through the same view that contains the chassis MIB. ie Module Table Resource Table Entity Table ====================================================================== modularSlot.1 <---------------- 1 ----------------------> chassis modularSlot.2 <---------------- 1 ----------------------> chassis modularSlot.2 <---------------- 2 ----------------------> chassis ... The value to use for chasEntityObjectId for the entity representing 'chassis' things is chasEntity. I'll send suggested updated table text seperately. ===================================================================== Now the minor points on the main part of the MIB: 1) As pointed out by someone else, chasPowerSupply is defined twice. The definition under chasChassisEntities should be changed ot something like chasPowerSource OBJECT IDENTIFIER ... 2) chasMonitors entity type should probably be singluar (chasMonitor). 3) Definitions for chasPowerSource, chasChassis and chasMonitors should be ::= { chasChassisEntities ... }, not chasChassisTypes. 4) In the location table sequence declaration: ChasPhyLocation ::= SEQUENCE { ... chasPhyLocationName ... should be 'chasPhyLocationDescr', or change the OBJECT-TYPE name. 5) In the modules table * chasModuleTable DESCRIPTION clause contains a supurfluous 'from' * SEQUENCE declares chasModuleFwVersion, this should be chasModuleSwVersion to be consistent with the OBJECT-TYPE macro * The DESCRIPTION of chasModuleLocationType requires the addition of 'in' after 'location' in the first sentence. * In the declaration of chasModuleType, 'chasLocationUnknown' should be chasModuleUnknown. * chasModuleAdminStatus contains a value of 'programLoad (5)'. Setting this value is probably insufficient to effect a load. It is likely that a filename and or server address will be required. It might be useful to define a seperate 'system load' table. * If 'programLoad' is included in the chasModuleAdminStatus then chasModuleOperStatus should include a 'loading' state. 6) The chasEntityTable * needs input on party, context, community usage. We have the issues someone raised with regards importing Party and Context in SNMPv1 implementations. * chasEntityAdminStatus, programLoad value. Same comment as the module table. I think that more information will be required. * In chasEntityParty, I can find no definition for chasEntityNoParty. (I think it was in a previous draft). Also the comment says that a party is identified by an OBJECT IDENTIFIER rather than a 'Party'. * Need a chasEntityNoContext value for chasEntityContext if using SNMPv1. 7) The chasPhyResourceTable table currently includes one OBJECT IDENTIFIER, chasPhyResType. The description of this object says that this identifies the 'type' of the resource. It also says that this object can contain the type of an entity to which this resource may be assigned. Unfortunately these to functions are mutually exclusive. Example: A repeater port can be assigned to a repeater, a group of repeater ports can be assigned to a repeater. The values for the resource type and the type of entity to which that resource may be assigned are: a) chasPhyResType = chas8023RptrPort entity type is chas8023Repeater b) chasPhyResType = chas8023RptrGroup entity type is chas8023Repeater An additional object is required to carry this information, for example: chasPhyResEntityAssignmentType OBJECT-TYPE SYNTAX OBJECT IDENTIFIER ACCESS read-only STATUS mandatory DESCRIPTION "Some implementations of the chassis MIB allow a resource to be moved between entities through management. For example a repeater module may be moved to different repeaters. This object acts as a 'hint' to the management card to indicate to which type of entity this resource may be assigned. If used then the value of this field can be matched to entities via the chasEntityObjectID object. Note that a value in this column does not mean that this resource _can_ be successfully assigned to a particular entity, merely that such an assignment is legal. A request to change assignment can be rejected due to local considerations such as insufficient resource." ::= { chasPhyResourceEntry ?? } Also the part of the description of chasPhyResType that refers to import of value from RFC1204 is incorrect and should be removed. 8) Minor points in chasPhyResourceTable. * DESCRIPTION of chasPhyResLocationType needs 'by' to be added between 'defined' and 'location'. * Ditto for chasPhyResLocation. * The DESCRIPTION clause of chasPhyResAssignment is incorrect. A correct form might be: "The physical module resource is assigned to a specific entity. This object defines the entity to which this resource is currently assigned. Notice, not all implementations may support this object as read-write. If read-write is supported assignment may still fail due to a number of reasons such as insufficient resources, invalid configuration." 9) chasLogResourceTable. Suggest the following variable name changes for consistency with the chasPhyResourceTable: chasLogResourceEntity ---> chasLogResEntity chasLogResourceEntitySubIndex ---> chasLogResEntitySubIndex chasLogResourceLocation ---> chasLogResLocation chasLogResourceID ---> chasLogResIndex
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