Re: [cin] Bar BoF at IETF 84
"Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com> Mon, 09 July 2012 19:44 UTC
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From: "Templin, Fred L" <Fred.L.Templin@boeing.com>
To: Terry Davis <terry.davis@ijetonboard.com>, "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>, Wesley Eddy <wes@mti-systems.com>
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 12:44:54 -0700
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Cc: Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com>, "cin@ietf.org" <cin@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [cin] Bar BoF at IETF 84
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Use-case documents are often good starting points. We did one for RANGER Scenarios (RFC6139) that discusses a number of use cases that overlap with the ones this group is targeting. Tony Hain and I also did one during the early days of the IPv6 Unique Local Address (ULA) standards development (draft-hain-templin-ipv6-localcomm) and, although it was never published, it gave useful leverage to help the ULA stuff along. I'd be up for participating in a use case development effort, which I guess could be subject matter for the Bar BoF? Thanks - Fred > -----Original Message----- > From: cin-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:cin-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Terry Davis > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 11:44 AM > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Wesley Eddy > Cc: Melinda Shore; cin@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [cin] Bar BoF at IETF 84 > > Dan > > Yep. I know some of the folks developing new wireless patient monitoring > and drug dispensing systems. Their view of wireless hospitals and > continuous patient monitoring within ten years is amazing. > > Plus UAVs, oil and gas, industrial control systems... > > All places that you want don't want unexpected connections, messages, etc. > > Take care > Terry > > -----Original Message----- > From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com] > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 11:33 AM > To: Terry Davis; Wesley Eddy > Cc: Melinda Shore; cin@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [cin] Bar BoF at IETF 84 > > Life-support systems in hospitals, ERs and other medical environments are > another use case. > > Regards, > > Dan > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cin-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:cin-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > > Terry Davis > > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 9:04 PM > > To: Wesley Eddy > > Cc: Melinda Shore; cin@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [cin] Bar BoF at IETF 84 > > > > Wes > > > > I could take a shot at one for aviation. I think the financial > industry > > would likely also argue theirs are critical too. > > > > Take care > > Terry > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Wesley Eddy [mailto:wes@mti-systems.com] > > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 7:49 PM > > To: Terry Davis > > Cc: Melinda Shore; cin@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [cin] Bar BoF at IETF 84 > > > > Is anyone working on a "problem statement" draft either specific to > some > > paricular critical infrastructure network, or generalized across > > multiple types? > > > > I think it would also be helpful to arrive at a more concrete > definition > > of what exactly a critical infrastructure network is, and how it > differs > > from any other network. To me, it seems like the key difference is > that > > CINs are built to support command and control of physical systems > whose > > disruption could result in massively expensive or irreparable losses > > (e.g. the power grid, or spacecraft), or have impacts to human safety- > > of-life (e.g. civil aviation, and SCADA systems). > > > > > > > > On 7/7/2012 1:26 PM, Terry Davis wrote: > > > Melinda > > > > > > I'm sure assuming it will be in a bar and I can promise I won't > bring > > > slides (I may send some out to the list beforehand.) > > > > > > Take care > > > Terry > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: cin-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:cin-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of > > > Melinda Shore > > > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 10:44 AM > > > To: cin@ietf.org > > > Subject: Re: [cin] Bar BoF at IETF 84 > > > > > > On 7/6/12 5:43 AM, Ronald Bonica wrote: > > >> Is there any interest in a bar BoF at IETF 84? > > > > > > Yes! If both conditions are met: 1) it's in a bar, and 2) NO > slides. > > Discussion is almost always a very good thing. > > > > > > Melinda > > > _______________________________________________ > > > cin mailing list > > > cin@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cin > > > > > > This message and its attachments are the property of iJet > > Technologies, Inc. and are intended solely for the use of the > designated > > recipient(s) and their appointed delegates. This email may contain > > information that is confidential. If you are not the intended > recipient, > > you are prohibited from printing, copying, forwarding or saving any > > portion of the message or attachments. Please delete the message and > > attachments and notify the sender immediately. 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- Re: [cin] Bar BoF at IETF 84 Terry Davis
- [cin] Bar BoF at IETF 84 Ronald Bonica
- Re: [cin] Bar BoF at IETF 84 Eric Burger
- Re: [cin] Bar BoF at IETF 84 Bob Hinden
- Re: [cin] Bar BoF at IETF 84 Melinda Shore
- Re: [cin] Bar BoF at IETF 84 Terry Davis
- Re: [cin] Bar BoF at IETF 84 Wesley Eddy
- Re: [cin] Bar BoF at IETF 84 Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [cin] Bar BoF at IETF 84 Ronald Bonica
- Re: [cin] Bar BoF at IETF 84 Templin, Fred L
- Re: [cin] Bar BoF at IETF 84 Terry Davis
- Re: [cin] Bar BoF at IETF 84 Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [cin] Bar BoF at IETF 84 Terry Davis
- Re: [cin] Bar BoF at IETF 84 Templin, Fred L