Re: comments on your comments....

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(i know i should not get involved in this . . . . ensign, bring up
the shields . . . .)

    > (I will also note that only a small number of people have spoken up in favor
    > of your proposal  For all your shouting, I do not see a community consensus.)
    
    explain your definition of "consensus".
    
    what i see is a small number of people in favor.
    
    i don't see anyone publically arguing against, with the exception,
    perhaps, of poor frank, who seems a bit befuddled...
    

i think the important word there is "community" rather than
"consensus".  "a small number" is not the community you were talking
to in your note, unless you believed that ITC refered to a subset of
the IETF mailing list.  (an interesting possibility, i admit.)

as for frank being befuddled, i woudl suggest that he is trying to
restrain himself.