Re: RFCS - Telnet commands mixed with 3270 data
Scott Sminkey - Sustaining Eng Group <sas@opus.xyplex.com> Wed, 16 March 1994 14:06 UTC
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From: Scott Sminkey - Sustaining Eng Group <sas@opus.xyplex.com>
Subject: Re: RFCS - Telnet commands mixed with 3270 data
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Bob Moskowitz wrote: >I fail to see what >logic processing it would save the vendors (and thus preformance >improvements) given that they have to scan for IAC doubling and IAC EORs >anyway. But then I don't write code. Bob, I do write code, tn3270 code in fact! :-) I've been the chief maintainer for the last couple of years for the tn3270 client implementation that runs in Xyplex terminal servers. Given that IAC doubling is a fact of life, and given that tn3270 and plain telnet implementations are intimately linked together (consider switching between NVT and tn3270 modes), I don't think that dealing with IACs embedded in a tn3270 data stream is any big deal. Whether or not any IAC sequences other than IAC IAC are supported, my code would still have to figure out what kind of IAC sequence it has received. If it isn't IAC IAC, chances are the code could just use existing telnet IAC processing routines with only minor changes. Also, it is quite useful to be able to use certain IAC sequences, like IAC IP, to emulate real 3270 keys that don't generate a character code like ATTN (we added this at the request of a customer whose tn3270 server worked like this). Even if RFCS were to prohibit only those IAC sequences that have to do with telnet option negotiation, I'm not convinced that there would be much of an effect on the design or implementation of client software. I'm much more worried about having to become SNA fluent and implement all those SNAisms if I have to implement RFCS. Now that's a lot of work! - Scott ============ Scott Sminkey email: sasminkey@eng.xyplex.com Software Sustaining Engineering voice: 508 952-4792 Xyplex, Inc. fax: 508 952-4887 295 Foster St. (Opinions, comments, etc. are mine, Littleton, MA 01460 not Xyplex's...)
- RFCS - Telnet commands mixed with 3270 data Roger Fajman
- Re: RFCS - Telnet commands mixed with 3270 data fab
- Re: RFCS - Telnet commands mixed with 3270 data Robert G. Moskowitz
- Re: RFCS - Telnet commands mixed with 3270 data Eddie Renoux
- Re: RFCS - Telnet commands mixed with 3270 data Robert G. Moskowitz
- Re: RFCS - Telnet commands mixed with 3270 data Scott Sminkey - Sustaining Eng Group
- Re: RFCS - Telnet commands mixed with 3270 data Tom Schlender
- Re: RFCS - Telnet commands mixed with 3270 data Roger Fajman
- Re: RFCS - Telnet commands mixed with 3270 data Scott Sminkey - Sustaining Eng Group
- Re: RFCS - Telnet commands mixed with 3270 data Bill Kelly
- Re: RFCS - Telnet commands mixed with 3270 data Bill Kelly
- Re: RFCS - Telnet commands mixed with 3270 data Phil Herold