Re: Minutes of the ISN meeting at Columbus IETF

William Manning <> Tue, 13 April 1993 13:50 UTC

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The WG chair(s) will have to request a slot from the Area director(s),
publish an adgenda, and actually show.  The logisics for Amsterdam
have already been published... at least the hotel info. (reproduced
below)   IF we actually meet, it will be very interesting, since we
will have a much larger EC component, and corspondingly smaller US
component.   This group seems to have a very UScentric focus.  It will
be refreshing to see how what we do can be utilized by other countries.
We need to remember that what we do has global scope.

Dear IETF'ers:

July 12-16, 1993 is the 27th Internet Engineering Task Force which
will be held in Amsterdam at the RAI Congress Centre.  The RAI has
it's own Hotel Service which was able to negotiate lower Hotel rates
than I was able to.  To obtain these lower rates you MUST register
through the RAI Hotel Service.  They have provided the form below,
which I have slightly modified.  Please fill out the form according
to the instructions and fax or mail it to the RAI.  DO NOT RETURN YOUR

PLEASE also note that the IETF Secretariat will NOT be registering folks,
(this means you :*), for the AMSTERDAM meeting until after the March IETF
takes place.  Any "modified" IETF registration forms sent prior to that
time will automatically be deleted.  The standard IETF announcement will
be sent when we are ready to take registrations for the July Meeting.

I have already begun scheduling working groups for the Amsterdam
IETF.  A Draft Agenda is available in the remote directories
under 0mtg-agenda.ams.txt


P.S.  According to our local host :>> In Europe there are only two sorts
      of rooms:

      >> SINGLE - contains one bed of aprox. 3 feet wide
      >> DOUBLE - contains either two beds of 3 feet each,
         or 1 bed of min. 6 feet
      >> (We don't do Queens or King Size)

HOTEL BOOKING FORM (page 1 of 2) - 29th IETF, 12-16, July 1993 - (Please Print)

Return this HOTEL BOOKING FORM before May 31, 1993 to: RAI HOTEL SERVICE
Europaplein, NL 1078 GZ AMSTERDAM.  Phone: +31 (0) 205491927
Fax  : +31 (0) 206462840

***After May 31st***, hotel accommodation cannot be guaranteed, though
requests will still be accepted.

Surname_____________________________________________ Initials___________




Postal Code and City____________________________________________________


Telephone______________________________ Facsimile_______________________


Date of Arrival in Amsterdam_____________  Date of Departure____________

Single Room_____________                   Double Room_____________

Preferred Hotel_________________________________ (see page two)

"I prefer the following hotel which is not listed on the HOTEL BOOKING FORM."

 Hotel Name:_______________________________________


DEPOSIT: A guarantee via credit card, a cheque* made out to the RAI HOTEL
         SERVICE, or a deposit of Dfl. 250 per room is required. After
         receipt of your payment/credit card details, a voucher will be
         forwarded to you. Payment must be made in Dutch Guilders.  All
         costs to transmitter's charge (approx. Dfl. 25 per transfer)


AMEX____  Diners____  Master____  Visa____  Eurocard ____  Access____

Account No._____________________________ Expiration Date_________________

Cardholder Name__________________________________________________________

Cardholder Signature_____________________________________________________

___Remitted by enclosed cheque payable to RAI HOTEL SERVICE (* personal
   cheques cannot be accepted.) The deposit paid will be deductible from
   your hotel bill upon presentation of this voucher at the reception desk
   of the hotel.

___Remitted to RAI HOTEL SERVICE account No. with the ABN-AMRO
   Bank at Amsterdam, the Netherlands,

   IETF93, Mr./Ms.____________________________________________________


HOTEL BOOKING FORM (page 2 of 2) - 29th IETF, 12-16, July 1993

Hotel accommodation at reduced rates can be reserved in the following hotels:

Hotel Name       Stars  Single     Double    Bkfst Incl.
Holiday Inn (1)    5    Dfl. 210   Dfl. 255      No
Novotel (1)        4    Dfl. 210   Dfl. 240      Yes
Altea   (2)        3    Dfl. 220   Dfl. 220      Yes

(1) Hotel located within walking distance of the RAI.
(2) Hotel located near the RAI.

CANCELLATION: Notification of cancellation must be sent in writing, (postal
              mail or facsimile) no later than 72 hours (three days) prior
              to originally scheduled arrival time.  Notification after this
              time will automatically result in a charge of Dfl. 250.

REFUNDS     : Refunds, minus administration costs of Dfl. 50, will be dealt
              with after the conference.


The following information has been provided in response to several questions
I have received relating to Hotel Accommodations in Amsterdam.

>  What's the difference between "walking distance" and "near the RAI"?

   Walking distance is approximate 10 minutes.  Anything above that is
   noted as "near the RAI".  The Altea Hotel happens to be a 15 minute walk.

> If I give them a credit card number for a guarantee, will they charge
>  a deposit to it, or just keep the number in case I don't show up (like
>  guaranteed late arrivals in the US)?

   The RAI Hotel Service will not charge a deposit, but will keep the
   number in their records.  In the event of a no-show one nights room
   charge will be assessed (like guaranteed late arrivals in the U.S.)

>  What would 200 Dfl look like today?

   The value of the dollar changes daily.  Today, Friday, February 19th,
   200 Dfl would be approximately $110.00.  Your local bank should be
   able to inform you of any changes to the exchange rate.

Bill Manning        PO Box 1892
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