Re: [clouds] Thoughts on ClooudOPS
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Subject: Re: [clouds] Thoughts on ClooudOPS
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Hi Bhumip, Thanks for the well-organized conference call that was nearly 90 minutes today. It was very helpful and very structured and focused to the recommended goals and objectives. I also agree with key discussion points and topics. I support the advancedment in this new working group of the Service Management for Virtualized Cloud as well. Carl Original Message: ----------------- From: So, Ning ning.so@verizonbusiness.com Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 19:48:06 +0000 To: clouds@ietf.org Subject: [clouds] Thoughts on ClooudOPS Bhumip and all, As discussed in this morning's call, here are my personal views on the proposed CloudOPS WG and the related drafts. Frameworks, high-level requirements, and best practices descriptions on cloud infrastructure that impact multiple IETF protocols under different areas and WGs, and/or protocols outside of IETF, belong to the CloudOPS WG. New protocols that impact multiple IETF protocols under different areas and WGs, and/or protocols outside of IETF, also belong to the CloudOPS WG. ARMD WG's work is very focused and much needed, and I voiced my support for its establishment. However, I see difficulties in broadening its charter to make it a single and only default CloudOPS WG. All the non-ARMD related drafts will become distraction and cause confusion. In my humble opinion, the following drafts belong to the CloudOPS WG. Many of them were presented at Cloud BoF in IETF79, and are in the process of getting updated for IETF80. Several are new submissions that are recently uploaded. I think what we have here is more than one and half hours of meeting time :-) I really do not want to inflict the pain on my ARMD friends. 1. Cloud Reference Framework 2. Cloud Security Framework 3. VPN Extension for Cloud Services 4. Network Abstraction for Enterprise and SP Class Cloud 5. Protocol Considerations for Workload Mobility in Clouds 6. Service Management for Virtualized Cloud 7. Virtual Network Management Information Model 8. Network Probability Requirements and Models 9. Syslog Extension for Cloud Using Syslog Structured Data 10. Virtual Resource Management (VRM) in Clouds Best regards, Ning So Network Evolution Planning Verizon, Inc. (office) 972-729-7905 (Cell) 972-955-0914 ________________________________ From: clouds-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:clouds-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bhumip Khasnabish Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2011 11:46 PM To: clouds@ietf.org Subject: [clouds] Conf call on Friday [11-February-2011] at 10 AM US/NY time Please plan to join a conf call on Friday, 11-Feb.-2011 starting from 10 AM ET (New York, USA time) to get updates on the Clouds initiatives/activities. [you may find the current NY/USA time (from your location) at the following URL: http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_US-NY.aspx ]. Dial in number: US Toll-free +1-866-710-5490 If the toll-free number does not work, pls use +001-203-875-8973 Passcode: 204 1744 (Thanks to Mr. Ning So for providing the conf bridge). Proposed Agenda: 1. VEPC draft update -- Ning et al 2. CloudLog draft update -- Gene and Sam 3. Data Center Operations (DCOPS) proposal update -- Ross (with info from Ron, if any) 4. draft-rfc-seamless-Cloud-masum-01.txt <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/attachment/wiki/Clouds/draft-r fc-seamless-Cloud-masum-01.txt> <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/raw-attachment/wiki/Clouds/dra ft-rfc-seamless-Cloud-masum-01.txt> (27.1 KB) - Masum et al, Network Abstraction for Enterprise and SP class Cloud: Seamless Cloud Abstraction and Interfaces 5. Protocol Considerations for Workload Mobility in Clouds.txt <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/attachment/wiki/Clouds/Protoco l%20Considerations%20for%20Workload%20Mobility%20in%20Clouds.txt> <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/raw-attachment/wiki/Clouds/Pro tocol%20Considerations%20for%20Workload%20Mobility%20in%20Clouds.txt> (21.5 KB) - Masum et al, Protocol Considerations for Workload Mobility in Clouds 6. Karavettil-et-al-IETF-Cloud-Security-Framework-11Feb2011_v2.pdf <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/attachment/wiki/Clouds/Karavet til-et-al-IETF-Cloud-Security-Framework-11Feb2011_v2.pdf> <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/raw-attachment/wiki/Clouds/Kar avettil-et-al-IETF-Cloud-Security-Framework-11Feb2011_v2.pdf> (0.6 MB) - Suren et al, updated cloud security framework (CSF) slides 7. draft-yokota-cloud-service-mobility-01.txt <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/attachment/wiki/Clouds/draft-y okota-cloud-service-mobility-01.txt> <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/raw-attachment/wiki/Clouds/dra ft-yokota-cloud-service-mobility-01.txt> (42.0 KB) - Mr. Yokota et al, Service Management for Virtualized Networks 8. Virtual Desktop Infrastructure (VDI) Requirements and Survey update - Mr. Wang and Mr. Ma 9. Cloud (client and network sides) APIs update - Sam 10. VRM update -- Mr Chu et al 11. VDI proposal expectations (further guidance) -- Peter Saint-Andre 12. VDI proposal development -- TBD 13. Any other topics? As always, all of the drafts and presentations are available at the following URL: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/app/trac/wiki/Clouds Next conf call will be held on Friday-18-February-2011 starting from 10 AM ET (New York, USA time). Many Thanks for Participation and Contributions. Best Regards. Bhumip Khasnabish (Mobile:+001-781-752-8003, vumip1 at gmail.com <mailto:vumip1%20at%20gmail.com> ) http://www.linkedin.com/in/bhumipkhasnabish -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - Microsoft® Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange
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