Re: [clouds] IETF-78 Cloud Standards BOF
Linda Dunbar <ldunbar@huawei.com> Wed, 28 July 2010 13:19 UTC
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Subject: Re: [clouds] IETF-78 Cloud Standards BOF
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It is very nice that Bhumip to create a bar BOF for interested parties to present different aspects of Cloud. As we can see that API and Cloud log are very different from dynamic resource management, which is also different from Private VPN. They need different expertise. People in Service layer may think the network wiring too detail and trivial. People worrying about network details view API as software features which can be application specific. Since ITU-T already starts the Cloud initiative, why not let ITU-T defines the general framework for Cloud and come to IETF for specific problems? Linda Dunbar _____ From: clouds-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:clouds-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Monique Morrow (mmorrow) Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 7:31 AM To: Chris Fenton (Iridescent); clouds@ietf.org Cc: k.mcewen@verizon.net Subject: Re: [clouds] IETF-78 Cloud Standards BOF Chris Do you proposed perhaps a framework draft as a starting point? Monique -----Original Message----- From: Chris Fenton (Iridescent) [mailto:cfenton@iridescentnetworks.com] Sent: Wed 7/28/2010 5:02 AM To: clouds@ietf.org Cc: k.mcewen@verizon.net Subject: [clouds] IETF-78 Cloud Standards BOF Hi all, Thanks for interesting presentations. To me the cloud without common or option for a standardised interface/api is not a cloud its a set of service platforms. We need to move forwards define the topic areas for standardisation but essentially its all the elements you have for subscribers to access a data platform from identity thru transport. Then there are the service management aspects and the service provider capabilities who want logs session or usage records and finally the platform owner would need some or at least be able to support the above.... So possible topic areas for definition are : Service user - access - transport - service discovery maybe Service provider - Service management (also VM management - movement etc...) - Subscription management - charging billing etc... - basically these are all FCAPS aspects Fault, Configuration, Accounting, Performance, Security Platform provider - not so sure what standards apply so long as the platform itself provides the APis the boxes can be anything - Management - also FCAPS CJ Mr Chris Fenton +44 7802 221 541 cfenton@iridescentnetworks.com Skype: chrisfentouk http://www.iridescentnetworks.com
- [clouds] IETF-78 Cloud Standards BOF Chris Fenton (Iridescent)
- Re: [clouds] IETF-78 Cloud Standards BOF Monique Morrow (mmorrow)
- Re: [clouds] IETF-78 Cloud Standards BOF Linda Dunbar
- Re: [clouds] IETF-78 Cloud Standards BOF Monique Morrow (mmorrow)
- Re: [clouds] IETF-78 Cloud Standards BOF Natale, Bob
- Re: [clouds] IETF-78 Cloud Standards BOF Edmonds, AndrewX
- Re: [clouds] IETF-78 Cloud Standards BOF Monique Morrow (mmorrow)
- Re: [clouds] IETF-78 Cloud Standards BOF Natale, Bob
- Re: [clouds] IETF-78 Cloud Standards BOF Sam Johnston
- Re: [clouds] IETF-78 Cloud Standards BOF Monique Morrow (mmorrow)
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