Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big
Melinda Shore <shore@arsc.edu> Wed, 07 April 2010 17:24 UTC
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Subject: Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big
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This all seems really incoherent to me. The usual approach is "Here's a problem, let's solve it" or sometimes "Here's a problem and here's the solution." Undertaking a gap analysis suggests that there's not a problem that's been identified, but that people want to undertake work in the area, don't want to work with the other bodies for whatever reasons, and so are looking for a problem that somebody else hasn't tackled (yet). I'm considerably more comfortable with work being driven by a real problem that's already been identified, personally. Melinda
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- Re: [clouds] Use cases Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [clouds] Use cases Gene Golovinsky
- Re: [clouds] Use cases Mark Webb
- Re: [clouds] Use cases Gene Golovinsky
- [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Linda Dunbar
- Re: [clouds] Use cases Mark Webb
- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Carl Williams
- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Linda Dunbar
- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Melinda Shore
- [clouds] 答复: Re: Use cases meng.yu
- Re: [clouds] Use cases Bhumip Khasnabish
- Re: [clouds] Use cases Masum Hasan (masum)
- Re: [clouds] Use cases Bhumip Khasnabish
- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Gene Golovinsky
- Re: [clouds] Use cases Gene Golovinsky
- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Mark Webb
- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Gene Golovinsky
- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Sam Johnston
- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Sam Johnston
- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Linda Dunbar
- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Bhumip Khasnabish
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- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Linda Dunbar
- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Masum Hasan (masum)
- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Masum Hasan (masum)
- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Mark Carlson
- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Melinda Shore
- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Mark Carlson
- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Gene Golovinsky
- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Mark Webb
- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Stephen Fleece
- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Linda Dunbar
- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Sam Johnston
- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Mark Carlson
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- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Bhumip Khasnabish
- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Bhumip Khasnabish
- Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big Bhumip Khasnabish
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