Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big

Mark,

As a matter of clarification (which I repeatedly made in our conference
calls) -  I am not 'representing' the IETF in any formal manner in this
activity. I am participating as an individual contributor. Of course, as
an IETF participant I am sharing information related to the IETF
activities that I am aware about.

Dan

________________________________

	From: Mark Carlson [mailto:mark.carlson@oracle.com] 
	Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 10:08 PM
	To: Melinda Shore
	Cc: Bhumip Khasnabish; clouds@ietf.org; Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
	Subject: Re: [clouds] Scope of the Cloud is too big

	Agreed. If you want a good place to start, go to:

	http://cloud-standards.org

	We are already coordinating cloud work from the various
	SDOs there, and IETF is represented by Dan Romascanu
<http://www.ietf.org/iesg/bio/dan-romascanu.html> .

	-- mark

	On 4/8/10 12:50 PM, Melinda Shore wrote: 

		On Apr 8, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Bhumip Khasnabish wrote: 

			of course there are and will be many workitems
within the theme of cloud-based systems, services, inter-cloud system,
and so on.  Cloud-based storage, cloud-based mobile-data backup service,
cloud-based network service in order to maintain service continuity,
disaster-tolerant communications, etc. are a few examples. Can we keep
the discussion in the same group please. Thanks a lot. 

		I think it might be worthwhile for people who are
fishing 
		for work to do to sit down and take a look at the
charters 
		for some established working groups, with a particular
eye 
		to how the work is scoped, how the deliverables are 
		defined, and so on.  I think it's kind of weird that 
		people want to work on something but they aren't sure
what - 
		usually it's an idea or ideas that drive work, or at
least 
		some problem that's got at least some wee little bit of 
		definition - but as long as people seem intent on taking

		this approach it might help to have some sense of what 
		this flailing about ought to produce.  Work in the IETF
is 
		much more narrowly-focused and precisely-scoped than is 
		the norm in other standards bodies and/or industry
consortia. 

		Melinda 

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