Re: IESG's support
"Vinton G. Cerf" <0001050002@mcimail.com> Fri, 07 April 1995 12:04 UTC
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From: "Vinton G. Cerf" <0001050002@mcimail.com>
To: pvm <pvm@isi.edu>
Cc: bev dains <bdains@linus.isoc.org>, isoc trustees <isoc-trustees@isoc.org>, iesg <iesg@CNRI.Reston.VA.US>
Subject: Re: IESG's support
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paul, no, the isoc board is only trying to assure accountability and expenditures in accordance with limitations on ISOC's charter. We do this quite well with conferences and I would think the same kind of arrangement with budgetary authority to iesg person and bills/invoices to isoc will work. See note from Bev Dains on this point. vint >Date: Thu Apr 6, 1995 09:40 am EDT >Source-Date: Thu, 06 Apr 95 06:38:45 PDT >From: pvm > EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 > MBX: pvm@isi.edu > >TO: * Vinton G. Cerf / MCI ID: 105-0002 >CC: bev dains > EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 > MBX: bdains@linus.isoc.org >CC: isoc trustees > EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 > MBX: isoc-trustees@isoc.org >CC: iesg > EMS: INTERNET / MCI ID: 376-5414 > MBX: iesg@cnri.reston.va.us >Subject: Re: IESG's support >Message-Id: 20950406134002/0003765414DC3EM >Source-Msg-Id: <199504061338.AA18199@zephyr.isi.edu> > >> >Vint, >> > >> >> 2. Additional funds TBD for other work, and would most likely >> >> be allocated based on a budget developed with IESG. >> > >> >It would be easiest if we could at least have a range. I have heard >> >$250K mentioned, but it has never been clear to me if that meant >> >legitimate requests up to that point would be honored. >> > >> >With regard to disbursement, I would suggest the trustees give the >> >$250K checkbook to one person empowered to act on proposals within the >> >financial ceilings and consistent with the goals outlined. >> > >> If you mean literally give a checkbook, I'd have to defer to >> our accountant about whether that works for us - the alternative >> is to have invoices come to ISOC for payment so that we have the >> proper audit controls (the auditors usually require that persons >> authorizing payments are NOT the ones actually signing checks). >> Also, ISOC has some limits on amounts that can be disbursed >> (two signatures on amounts $10K and up). >> >> As to the maximum amount, the $250K figure has been proposed but >> not yet ratified by the trustees and I suspect you'd help the >> process along if we had a set of budgeted items that lay out >> the nature of the proposed expenditures. > >We were actually talking about the smart card with your crypto key. >Anyway, I don't care about the procedures so long as there is a single >person empowered by the ISOC to make it happen without further debate, >discussion by the trustees, proposal writing, etc. I do not want "the >checkbook" I want it in the hands of a responsible ISOC person who has >been told to pay legitimate bills up to $X. Note that since I am not >an ISOC person, someone else will have the checkbook and I will not be >able to buy a yacht. > >I'm getting the impression that the ISOC trustees want to decide for >themselves how to spend this money. That will be fine. The IESG can >just go back to its zero budget mode, and try to take advantage of >whatever ISOC buys for us. > >paul > >USC/Information Sciences Institute phone: 310-822-1511 x285 >4676 Admiralty Way, Marina del Rey, CA fax: 310-823-6714 >90292
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