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Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us> Mon, 15 June 2015 22:52 UTC

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From: Richard Shockey <richard@shockey.us>
To: Henning Schulzrinne <Henning.Schulzrinne@fcc.gov>, "Dwight, Timothy M (Tim)" <timothy.dwight@verizon.com>
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Tim Henning .. This is uniquely timely and important because the SIP Forum
is at this moment attempting to revise its SIPConnect Recommendation for
PBX / hosted to SSP interface where the data may be originated by the
enterprise and it needs to be treated in some way by the NNI. (hopefully
maybe not stripped if its seen in the FROM or P-AI)

Its a complication but not insurmountable. It clearly shows we need to
rethink the charter and look at some baby steps vs demanding that all the
STIR like mechanisms be in place before there is progress.



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On 6/15/15, 6:11 PM, "Henning Schulzrinne" <Henning.Schulzrinne@fcc.gov>
wrote:

>Agreed that the terminating carrier can provide added value, e.g., by
>linking to other information. You could imagine mapping numbers to BBB
>information, or databases or registered charities, or Yelp... I am
>somewhat surprised that this isn't happening already more broadly.
>
>________________________________________
>From: Dwight, Timothy M (Tim) [timothy.dwight@verizon.com]
>Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 1:58 PM
>To: Henning Schulzrinne
>Cc: cnit@ietf.org
>Subject: RE: [cnit] CNIT Charter bashing..
>
>Henning,
>
>I'm not sure 'carrier B' would in the "in-band case" have no incentive to
>use a 3rd party service.  It might be that the 3rd party service provides
>additional information and/or is considered more trustworthy than whoever
>provided the in-band information.  We can (and I hope will) change the
>incentives.  I think it would be a reasonable objective to carry whatever
>content is deemed "necessary" to serve the public, in-band.  If people
>want to operate databases full of calling party's cat pictures, and
>Carrier B wants to provide this to their customer (or allow their
>customer to obtain it themselves, e.g., provide them a link to it) that's
>all OK with me.
>
>I agree with you about the importance of being able to know
>unambiguously, who inserted the information.
>
>Tim
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