Re: [codec] 3 week WGLC on draft-ietf-codec-requirements-02

Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com> Tue, 25 January 2011 21:01 UTC

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I followed up with Christian on a separate thread and I hope we will sort out whatever is needed to fix this document. 

I just want to say the chairs certainly want this document to reflect rough consensus of the WG. Please, help us get there - review this document and provide suggested text for any technical changes that you think need to be made to the draft. 

Thanks, Cullen <CODEC co-chair>


On Jan 23, 2011, at 1:19 AM, Christian Hoene wrote:

>> The authors believe that the requirements document is complete. 
> 
> [Christian Hoene] Which authors? So far this document has only two selected
> editors.
> 
>> The chairs
>> would like to now issue a 3 week working group last call for
> draft-ietf-codec-
>> requirements-02. At the end of 3 weeks, if no comments have been
>> received, we will pass the document to the IESG for approval.
> 
> [Christian Hoene] Despite hundreds of emails, what were exchanged on this
> mailing list on issues regarding requirements, the editors have been
> reluctant to update the requirements document according to the consensus
> process on this mailing list. 
> 
> If I compare draft-ietf-codec-requirement-02 with
> draft-valin-codec-requirements-02, I only see editorial changes.
> https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-ietf-codec-requirements-02&difftyp
> e=--html&submit=Go!&url2=draft-valin-codec-requirements-02
> 
> Sorry guys, if I see this I become very cynical on the standardization
> process at the IETF.   The editors have not done their job and the chairs do
> not care. At the end, it all looks like rubberstamping with a little bit of
> theater.
> 
> Christian
> 
> 
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