Re: [codec] #16: Multicast?

Koen Vos <koen.vos@skype.net> Fri, 07 May 2010 21:49 UTC

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Subject: Re: [codec] #16: Multicast?
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Quoting "Raymond (Juin-Hwey) Chen":

> I wouldn't be surprised if the total VoIP users worldwide exceed 100M,
> probably significantly.

Correct, Skype alone has > 100M active users...

> Most of these are still narrowband.

No: super-wideband.

Are IP phones that come on the market today still using only  
narrowband?  That must be a quickly reducing segment, no?

I do agree that "we shouldn't completely ignore narrowband."

koen.