Re: [codec] Royalty Free codec standards -- don't settle for less
Eric Burger <eburger@standardstrack.com> Wed, 11 November 2009 06:29 UTC
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In practical terms, I agree that there will be better and better codecs in the future. However, I would offer the older codecs are good enough for our purposes and will be safe. On Nov 11, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Stephan Wenger wrote: > The existence of at least a dozend of projects in the speech coding > field > today suggests to me that we have not yet reached the point of > technology > progress saturation in this field. Other that this minor point, I > agree. > > Stephan > > > > On 11/11/09 12:26 PM, "Koen Vos" <koen.vos@skype.net> wrote: > >> 1. Technological progress saturates. >> 2. Patents expire. >> Therefore, the performance advantage of royalty-bearing standards >> diminishes with time, and high-quality, royalty-free standards are >> unavoidable. I'm convinced that today we have reached this point of >> commoditization for audio and speech coding technology. >> >> koen. >> >> >> Quoting Rob Glidden: >>> Here is my view, perhaps you share it, perhaps you don't. >>> >>> What the world needs now is royalty-free, standardized codecs. This >>> is critical to the future of the Web, and the progress the Internet >>> has brought to the world, and will bring to the world. >>> >>> Video, audio, transport, the whole thing. Evaluated, vetted for >>> patents. Under an appropriate, responsible and complete royalty free >>> process. No less. >>> >>> IETF, ITU, and ISO/MPEG should all get going on this important >>> activity -- after all why shouldn't all of these organizations >>> include this as core to their mission. >>> >>> I have, and no doubt you have too, seen countless explanations why >>> this should not, could not, will not, rather not, might not, or can >>> not happen. Some well meaning and sincere, some from vested >>> interests. There are too many "powerful" interests against it. >>> "Important" commercial interests are ambivalent. It is too hard >>> "legally" or "politically" or "technically". It is just too >>> confusing to think through. There is no longer a critical mass that >>> cares enough about keeping the future of the Open Internet open and >>> royalty free. The well meaning are ignorant, or naive. Etc. >>> >>> Don't settle. Take the issue of royalty free, standardized codecs >>> all the way to the top of these organizations. Do what it takes. If >>> it requires new organizations, start them. It it requires revised >>> processes, revise them. This is the spirit that built the Web and >>> the Internet, this is the spirit that is its lifeblood, and this is >>> the spirit that needs to be at the heart of its future. >>> >>> Don't settle. Don't let those who have tried hard already, or have >>> only half-heartedly tried, justify the status quo or their >>> half-heartedness. Encourage them to focus on how to take the next >>> steps. Don't let convenient "interpretations" of standards >>> processes be an excuse for never starting, never finishing, or never >>> setting up processes that will work. Need more legal background? >>> Find it. More technical information? Get it. >>> >>> Don't settle. The world has plenty of patent-encumbered media >>> standards, plenty of proprietary solutions, and plenty of standards >>> in other domains that have figured out how to deliver royalty free. >>> But the world does not have enough royalty-free codec standards, so >>> this is the task that needs to be addressed. >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> codec mailing list >>> codec@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/codec >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> codec mailing list >> codec@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/codec > > > _______________________________________________ > codec mailing list > codec@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/codec
- [codec] Royalty Free codec standards -- don't set… Rob Glidden
- Re: [codec] Royalty Free codec standards -- don't… Rob Glidden
- Re: [codec] Royalty Free codec standards -- don't… Koen Vos
- Re: [codec] Royalty Free codec standards -- don't… Stephan Wenger
- Re: [codec] Royalty Free codec standards -- don't… Eric Burger
- Re: [codec] Royalty Free codec standards -- don't… Eric Burger
- Re: [codec] Royalty Free codec standards -- don't… Rob Glidden
- Re: [codec] Royalty Free codec standards -- don't… Eric Burger
- Re: [codec] Royalty Free codec standards -- don't… Stephan Wenger
- Re: [codec] Royalty Free codec standards -- don't… rob.glidden