Re: [codec] WGLC of draft-ietf-codec-opus-07

"Christian Hoene" <> Sun, 24 July 2011 14:34 UTC

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> > The conversation I want us to avoid is discussing if the IPR is claims
are valid
> or not - it's not a topic the IETF takes on but clearly the IETF does want
> to be aware that the claims exist and that people have to make their own
> decisions about claims. I imagine people feeling about the claims will
> into their opinions about if they think the draft is worth publishing as
an RFC
> or not. Stephan is our IPR advisor for this group so hopefully if I said
> something wrong here he can correct me - he understands all of this better
> than I do.
> >
> I understand that IETF does not want to take a position. But for
> individuals (like I), it is hard to make one's "own decision" on the
> patents topic, as it is a pretty difficult subject, especially when
> one is not part of a big company with lawyers or patent experts. So
> that's had to evaluate any risk here. Hence that's why I am looking
> for expertise of knowledgeable people on patents in the IETF's mls.
> Anyway I'll see this mailing list that Christian linked me.
> Thanks all, for the various answers.
> Jehan

[Christian Hoene] After having an open-source codec, we might need to have a
legal analysis about IPR claims that is under creative commons...
Otherwise, the first time cost sof using the codec would still be
substantial (beside cost of IPR risks that will remain anyhow).