Re: [codec] WGLC of draft-ietf-codec-opus-07

Jehan Pagès <jehan.marmottard@gmail.com> Sun, 24 July 2011 12:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [codec] WGLC of draft-ietf-codec-opus-07
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Hi,

On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com> wrote:
>
> Christian (CC'd) set up a mailing list for people to discuss the patents. I forget the exact location but perhaps he can send a pointer to the list.
>
> The conversation I want us to avoid is discussing if the IPR is claims are valid or not - it's not a topic the IETF takes on but clearly the IETF does want people to be aware that the claims exist and that people have to make their own decisions about claims. I imagine people feeling about the claims will factor into their opinions about if they think the draft is worth publishing as an RFC or not. Stephan is our IPR advisor for this group so hopefully if I said something wrong here he can correct me - he understands all of this better than I do.
>

I understand that IETF does not want to take a position. But for
individuals (like I), it is hard to make one's "own decision" on the
patents topic, as it is a pretty difficult subject, especially when
one is not part of a big company with lawyers or patent experts. So
that's had to evaluate any risk here. Hence that's why I am looking
for expertise of knowledgeable people on patents in the IETF's mls.
Anyway I'll see this mailing list that Christian linked me.

Thanks all, for the various answers.

Jehan

> Cullen
>
> On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:27 , Jehan Pagès wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I know that we are not supposed to discuss patents issues on this list
>> (according to an email on 25th of May by Cullen Jennings).
>> But considering that Opus is closing last call, and I have no idea
>> where else I could get the information (Cullen's email mentioned
>> possibility of creating a new list for this, but it seems it never get
>> created, or else not announced here), I am sorry by advance for
>> asking. But what is the status of the IPR claims of patents which were
>> issued on previous drafts?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Jehan
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Jonathan Rosenberg <jdrosen@jdrosen.net> wrote:
>> > A reminder that there are three days remaining in this working group last
>> > call.
>> >
>> > Please send comments by the end of day on July 23.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Jonathan R.
>> >
>> > On 7/8/2011 11:38 PM, Cullen Jennings wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The authors believe the draft is pretty much done other than editorial
>> >> stuff so we would like to initiate a working group last call on
>> >> draft-ietf-codec-opus-07 to help gather any remaining issues.
>> >>
>> >> The draft can be found at
>> >>  http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-codec-opus-07.txt
>> >>
>> >> I would like to note that even if no issues are raised during this WGLC,
>> >> the chairs will delay requesting publication at the end of the WGLC to make
>> >> sure there is time for appropriate communications with other SDOs.
>> >>
>> >> Please send comment by the end of the day on July 23.
>> >>
>> >> Thank you, Cullen&  Jonathan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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