Re: [codec] #5: Mention in requirements, FAX?

Michael Knappe <mknappe@juniper.net> Fri, 02 April 2010 14:26 UTC

Return-Path: <mknappe@juniper.net>
X-Original-To: codec@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: codec@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DB123A67FA for <codec@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 07:26:14 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -5.081
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.081 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.388, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E8G2KGk3J1df for <codec@core3.amsl.com>; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 07:26:13 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from exprod7og106.obsmtp.com (exprod7og106.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.165]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50AA3A679C for <codec@ietf.org>; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 07:26:12 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from source ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob106.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKS7X+oOANo41CzjdPIV2r63aAFiqXohru@postini.com; Fri, 02 Apr 2010 07:26:47 PDT
Received: from EMBX02-HQ.jnpr.net ([fe80::18fe:d666:b43e:f97e]) by P-EMHUB03-HQ.jnpr.net ([fe80::a124:1ab1:8e0b:f671%11]) with mapi; Fri, 2 Apr 2010 07:24:41 -0700
From: Michael Knappe <mknappe@juniper.net>
To: "hoene@uni-tuebingen.de" <hoene@uni-tuebingen.de>, "codec@ietf.org" <codec@ietf.org>
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 07:24:40 -0700
Thread-Topic: [codec] #5: Mention in requirements, FAX?
Thread-Index: AcrSbkNA5SPM6/VSQxSAGnqDUxe/FAAAMCEQAABNmOI=
Message-ID: <05542EC42316164383B5180707A489EE1D0AA5F58F@EMBX02-HQ.jnpr.net>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
acceptlanguage: en-US
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Re: [codec] #5: Mention in requirements, FAX?
X-BeenThere: codec@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: Codec WG <codec.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/codec>, <mailto:codec-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/codec>
List-Post: <mailto:codec@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:codec-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/codec>, <mailto:codec-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 14:26:14 -0000

Please, no fax!  :-)

>From someone who has dealt with fax carriage for years....

Mike


----- Original Message -----
From: codec-bounces@ietf.org <codec-bounces@ietf.org>
To: codec@ietf.org <codec@ietf.org>
Sent: Fri Apr 02 10:21:18 2010
Subject: Re: [codec] #5: Mention  in requirements, FAX?

Hi guys,

just for the notes. Testing Fax (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fax#History) is definitely out of scope?

Christian

---------------------------------------------------------------
Dr.-Ing. Christian Hoene
Interactive Communication Systems (ICS), University of Tübingen 
Sand 13, 72076 Tübingen, Germany, Phone +49 7071 2970532 
http://www.net.uni-tuebingen.de/


>-----Original Message-----
>From: codec-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:codec-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian West
>Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 4:10 PM
>To: stephen botzko
>Cc: codec@ietf.org
>Subject: Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements
>
>But Codecs themselves do not detect DTMF.  Thats the job of the DTMF detector.  NOT the codec.  In all
>my work with codecs I have not once seen one that knows anything about DTMF.  And if the codec is too
>lossy inband is out of the question.
>
>/b
>
>On Apr 2, 2010, at 9:01 AM, stephen botzko wrote:
>
>> I heard no decision as to DTMF tone encoding.
>>
>> As far as I am concerned, the question of whether the codec MUST encode DTMF tones accurately enough
>to be detected at the decoder output (or SHOULD or non-requirement) is still open.
>>
>> That question clearly is in-scope, and has nothing to do with signaling.
>>
>> Stephen Botzko
>
>_______________________________________________
>codec mailing list
>codec@ietf.org
>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/codec

_______________________________________________
codec mailing list
codec@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/codec