Re: [codec] [Matroska-devel] Opus in Matroksa Cont.
"Timothy B. Terriberry" <tterribe@xiph.org> Mon, 08 July 2013 18:26 UTC
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Subject: Re: [codec] [Matroska-devel] Opus in Matroksa Cont.
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Moritz Bunkus wrote: > I think you misunderstood me. I did not mean to say that the Opus > specs (any of them) should be changed. I only meant the wording in the > _Matroska_ specs for the newly-introduced "CodecDelay" element[1] > which, at the moment, reads as follows: > >> CodecDelay is the delay in nanoseconds to add to each Block timestamp. >> The value should be small so the muxing of tracks with the same actual >> timestamp are in the same Cluster. > > I think this wording is extremely misleading and does not really allow > the use of this element to hold Opus' pre-skip value -- though it has > been our intention to store just that in it. > > This is purely a matter internal to the Matroska team and specs and > has nothing to do with any of the Opus RFCs and drafts. Ah! Sorry for the noise, I did indeed confuse the antecedent. If you do find things that are unclear or that could be improved in the IETF drafts, please don't hesitate to let us know. More review is always appreciated. > Kind regards, > mosu > > [1] http://www.matroska.org/technical/specs/index.html
- Re: [codec] [Matroska-devel] Opus in Matroksa Con… Timothy B. Terriberry
- Re: [codec] [Matroska-devel] Opus in Matroksa Con… Timothy B. Terriberry