Re: [codec] Individuals and hats

Stephen Botzko <stephen.botzko@gmail.com> Thu, 14 April 2011 14:01 UTC

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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 10:01:13 -0400
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From: Stephen Botzko <stephen.botzko@gmail.com>
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I am sitting at the beach, sipping my margarita while my patent royalties
are just rolling in.  I hear the steel drum band in the background, and
beautiful women are all around.  One offers me another drink, a second a
massage....

This is just fantasizing - I have no such income.

So let's get back to work

Stephen Botzko

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Thorvald Natvig <thorvald@natvig.com>wrote:

>
> I see from cursory googling that there is an overlap between some of the
> proponents of the impossible test plan and developers of MPEG USAC,
> which seems likely to become one of the most patent encumbered codecs in
> history.
>
> There seems to be clear royalty-based gain to be had for individuals and
> companies if this workgroup should fail. Everyone in the IETF wears the
> hat of an individual, but it might be better to be upfront about the
> motivations for helping the workgroup succeed when there is such a clear
> conflict of interest.
>
> Sincerely,
> Thorvald
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