Re: [codec] draft test and processing plan for the IETF Codec
Monty Montgomery <xiphmont@gmail.com> Tue, 19 April 2011 06:29 UTC
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On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Paul Coverdale <coverdale@sympatico.ca> wrote: > As I mentioned earlier, the situation is not as bad as it may seem, I questioned Greg on the statistical assumptions he was making, and they were ~ sound. Conservative, in fact, along most axes. > certainly not a "1 in nonillion" chance of passing all requirements. Greg's > analysis applies to flipping a coin that has a probability of .90 for > "heads" and .10 for "tails." However, listener responses in a MOS test are > not random - if they are, we throw that listener out of the results. ...please be a great deal more descriptive/explicit on what you mean here, and please don't dumb it down assuming a non-technical audience without basic statistical analysis training. Because what you just said above set off multiple alarm bells. Probability distribution functions are probability distrbution functions. Monty Xiph.Org
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