Re: [codec] #5: Mention in requirements, FAX?
"Christian Hoene" <hoene@uni-tuebingen.de> Fri, 02 April 2010 14:21 UTC
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Subject: Re: [codec] #5: Mention in requirements, FAX?
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Hi guys, just for the notes. Testing Fax (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fax#History) is definitely out of scope? Christian --------------------------------------------------------------- Dr.-Ing. Christian Hoene Interactive Communication Systems (ICS), University of Tübingen Sand 13, 72076 Tübingen, Germany, Phone +49 7071 2970532 http://www.net.uni-tuebingen.de/ >-----Original Message----- >From: codec-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:codec-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian West >Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 4:10 PM >To: stephen botzko >Cc: codec@ietf.org >Subject: Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements > >But Codecs themselves do not detect DTMF. Thats the job of the DTMF detector. NOT the codec. In all >my work with codecs I have not once seen one that knows anything about DTMF. And if the codec is too >lossy inband is out of the question. > >/b > >On Apr 2, 2010, at 9:01 AM, stephen botzko wrote: > >> I heard no decision as to DTMF tone encoding. >> >> As far as I am concerned, the question of whether the codec MUST encode DTMF tones accurately enough >to be detected at the decoder output (or SHOULD or non-requirement) is still open. >> >> That question clearly is in-scope, and has nothing to do with signaling. >> >> Stephen Botzko > >_______________________________________________ >codec mailing list >codec@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/codec
- [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements codec issue tracker
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements codec issue tracker
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Christian Hoene
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements stephen botzko
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Michael Knappe
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements, Tes… Christian Hoene
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements stephen botzko
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements, Tes… Wyss, Felix
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements, Tes… Steve Underwood
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Steve Underwood
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements James Rafferty
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements stephen botzko
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements James Rafferty
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements stephen botzko
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Brian West
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Brian West
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Brian West
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Brian West
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Michael Knappe
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention in requirements, FAX? Christian Hoene
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention in requirements, FAX? James Rafferty
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Christian Hoene
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention in requirements, FAX? Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention in requirements, FAX? Michael Knappe
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements stephen botzko
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention in requirements, FAX? stephen botzko
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention in requirements, FAX? Michael Knappe
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Christian Hoene
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements stephen botzko
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements James Rafferty
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Raymond (Juin-Hwey) Chen
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Roman Shpount
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Wyss, Felix
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements stephen botzko
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Roman Shpount
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Roman Shpount
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements stephen botzko
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Raymond (Juin-Hwey) Chen
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Brian West
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Raymond (Juin-Hwey) Chen
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Raymond (Juin-Hwey) Chen
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Raymond (Juin-Hwey) Chen
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Raymond (Juin-Hwey) Chen
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Roman Shpount
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Benjamin M. Schwartz
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Roman Shpount
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements codec issue tracker
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements stephen botzko
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Raymond (Juin-Hwey) Chen
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Kevin P. Fleming
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements stephen botzko
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Koen Vos
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements stephen botzko
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Wyss, Felix
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements stephen botzko
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements Michael Knappe
- Re: [codec] #5: Mention DTMF in requirements codec issue tracker