Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN

[Frank Fitzek <[e-mail]>]

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On 09.10.2019 14:21, Marie-Jose Montpetit wrote:
> Thanks Frank!
>
> Do you have a link to your emulator we could add to the list or a 
> GitHub link; can it be accessed remotely with all licensing aspects if 
> licenses are needed as a principle especially for students I would 
> favor Open Source implementations. And what is the goal of your 
> emulator and how does it relate to the topics currently being 
> investigated by the PRG? Maybe presenting your emulator could be part 
> of your presentation in Singapore.
>
> On teaching we could make a list of classes related to data plane 
> programmability (like P4), architectures using COIN (I will give one 
> of those before Singapore and could make the material available), 
> technology classes using COIN or COIN-like principles etc.  I will 
> create a special area in Github.
>
>
> Marie-José Montpetit, Ph.D.
> Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory
> [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
> [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
>
> On October 9, 2019 at 8:08:24 AM, Frank Fitzek 
> ([e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>) wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I find the discussion about academic involvement very interesting and 
>> from our side we are interested in
>>
>> - research topics wrt COIN
>>
>> - teaching activities around COIN
>>
>> - implementation discussion wrt complexity and more
>>
>> For the teaching activity we made our own emulator with several 
>> examples of machine learning (congestion control/routing/object 
>> detection), coding and compression etc. So if anybody is interested 
>> in these topics, I will be in Singapore and hopefully have a lot of 
>> interesting discussions.
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> On 09.10.2019 13:09, Marie-Jose Montpetit wrote:
>>> I also did both and still do. But if professors are not interested 
>>> students will not either. So we have to work all angles.
>>>
>>> Marie-José Montpetit, Ph.D.
>>> Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory
>>> [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
>>> [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
>>>
>>> On October 9, 2019 at 7:02:00 AM, Rute Sofia ([e-mail] 
>>> <mailto:[e-mail]>) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well,
>>>>
>>>> it is for students. I am in both worlds (academia and research 
>>>> towards industry) so… J
>>>>
>>>> Rute
>>>>
>>>> *From:*Marie-Jose Montpetit <[e-mail] 
>>>> <mailto:[e-mail]>>
>>>> *Sent:* 09 October 2019 12:42
>>>> *To:* Rute Sofia <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>>; 
>>>> Noa Zilberman <[e-mail] 
>>>> <mailto:[e-mail]>>
>>>> *Cc:* [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>; 
>>>> [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
>>>> *Subject:* RE: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN
>>>>
>>>> But that is the point: IRTF is NOT standardisation..
>>>>
>>>> But OK for tutorials it seems its needed :)
>>>>
>>>> mjm
>>>>
>>>> Marie-José Montpetit, Ph.D.
>>>>
>>>> Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory
>>>>
>>>> [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
>>>>
>>>> [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
>>>>
>>>> On October 9, 2019 at 4:38:21 AM, Rute Sofia ([e-mail] 
>>>> <mailto:[e-mail]>) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Hello,
>>>>
>>>>     I would also suggest considering organizing tutorials and
>>>>     workshops co-located with relevant scientific events. IMO most
>>>>     students are not directed to standardisation. Therefore, most
>>>>     of them usually do not work towards the IETF/IRTF.
>>>>
>>>>     So to attract academia, one of the best intruments are
>>>>     scientific events.
>>>>
>>>>     BR
>>>>
>>>>     Rute Sofia
>>>>
>>>>     *From:*Coin <[e-mail]
>>>>     <mailto:[e-mail]>> *On Behalf Of *Noa Zilberman
>>>>     *Sent:* 08 October 2019 20:01
>>>>     *To:* Marie-Jose Montpetit <[e-mail]
>>>>     <mailto:[e-mail]>>
>>>>     *Cc:* [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>;
>>>>     [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
>>>>     *Subject:* Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN
>>>>
>>>>     Hi,
>>>>
>>>>     I would suggest that we need to find ways to incentivize
>>>>     academics to engage with COIN.
>>>>
>>>>     Some ideas that I can think of are:
>>>>
>>>>     1. Clearly list challenges on the wiki. These may be
>>>>     accompanied by drafts, but not necessarily, and can be
>>>>     something that was discussed on the mailing list,
>>>>
>>>>      a presentation from a meeting etc. Ideally those will be
>>>>     accompanied by one or two lines to describe the challenge
>>>>     (+pointers). This helps not only to identify gaps, but also if
>>>>     there's a graduate student looking for a project in in-network
>>>>     computing, there may be a "go to page" hosted by COINRG with
>>>>     potential research challenges, and potential collaborators.
>>>>
>>>>     2. Invite postdocs and students to talk at the meetings. They
>>>>     are usually the first authors of papers so they know the tech
>>>>     side well, are more likely to have the time to travel, and are
>>>>     eager to discuss their research.
>>>>
>>>>     3. Make data available (this was briefly mentioned in the
>>>>     meeting). These may be use cases, datasets, traces etc.
>>>>     Research is better if it is driven by real world data (and more
>>>>     likely to get published).
>>>>
>>>>     4. List collaboration opportunities, internships etc that fall
>>>>     within COINRG domain.
>>>>
>>>>     Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>>     Noa
>>>>
>>>>     On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 4:55 PM Marie-Jose Montpetit
>>>>     <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         Today at the Interim Noa Zilberman raised the issue on how
>>>>         to help academics contribute to COIN (thanks Noa!).
>>>>
>>>>         Obviously drafts are not the right vehicle for most
>>>>         academics and Colin Perkins added that we could have other
>>>>         mechanisms.
>>>>
>>>>         Some inputs:
>>>>
>>>>         - academic presentations at the meeting with appropriate
>>>>         papers stored in the Github and datatracker (we already
>>>>         have done some of this)
>>>>
>>>>         - if a topic could lead to a RFC support academic
>>>>         collaborators in writing a draft
>>>>
>>>>         - keeping a list of related conferences and try to have
>>>>         mini-PRG meetings there
>>>>
>>>>         But I am sure there is much more. So what are the list’s
>>>>         ideas?
>>>>
>>>>         The minutes of the meeting will be issued and I have a
>>>>         recording I will upload to the GitHub.
>>>>
>>>>         Thanks all!
>>>>
>>>>         mjm
>>>>
>>>>         Marie-José Montpetit, Ph.D.
>>>>
>>>>         Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory
>>>>
>>>>         [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
>>>>
>>>>         mariejo@mit..edu <mailto:[e-mail]>
>>>>
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