Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN

[Frank Fitzek <[e-mail]>]

Dear all,

I find the discussion about academic involvement very interesting and 
from our side we are interested in

- research topics wrt COIN

- teaching activities around COIN

- implementation discussion wrt complexity and more

For the teaching activity we made our own emulator with several examples 
of machine learning (congestion control/routing/object detection), 
coding and compression etc. So if anybody is interested in these topics, 
I will be in Singapore and hopefully have a lot of interesting discussions.

Frank

On 09.10.2019 13:09, Marie-Jose Montpetit wrote:
> I also did both and still do. But if professors are not interested 
> students will not either. So we have to work all angles.
>
> Marie-José Montpetit, Ph.D.
> Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory
> [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
> [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
>
> On October 9, 2019 at 7:02:00 AM, Rute Sofia ([e-mail] 
> <mailto:[e-mail]>) wrote:
>
>> Well,
>>
>> it is for students. I am in both worlds (academia and research 
>> towards industry) so… J
>>
>> Rute
>>
>> *From:*Marie-Jose Montpetit <[e-mail] 
>> <mailto:[e-mail]>>
>> *Sent:* 09 October 2019 12:42
>> *To:* Rute Sofia <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>>; Noa 
>> Zilberman <[e-mail] 
>> <mailto:[e-mail]>>
>> *Cc:* [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>; 
>> [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
>> *Subject:* RE: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN
>>
>> But that is the point: IRTF is NOT standardisation..
>>
>> But OK for tutorials it seems its needed :)
>>
>> mjm
>>
>> Marie-José Montpetit, Ph.D.
>>
>> Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory
>>
>> [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
>>
>> [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
>>
>> On October 9, 2019 at 4:38:21 AM, Rute Sofia ([e-mail] 
>> <mailto:[e-mail]>) wrote:
>>
>>     Hello,
>>
>>     I would also suggest considering organizing tutorials and
>>     workshops co-located with relevant scientific events. IMO most
>>     students are not directed to standardisation. Therefore, most of
>>     them usually do not work towards the IETF/IRTF.
>>
>>     So to attract academia, one of the best intruments are scientific
>>     events.
>>
>>     BR
>>
>>     Rute Sofia
>>
>>     *From:*Coin <[e-mail]
>>     <mailto:[e-mail]>> *On Behalf Of *Noa Zilberman
>>     *Sent:* 08 October 2019 20:01
>>     *To:* Marie-Jose Montpetit <[e-mail]
>>     <mailto:[e-mail]>>
>>     *Cc:* [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>;
>>     [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
>>     *Subject:* Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN
>>
>>     Hi,
>>
>>     I would suggest that we need to find ways to incentivize
>>     academics to engage with COIN.
>>
>>     Some ideas that I can think of are:
>>
>>     1. Clearly list challenges on the wiki. These may be accompanied
>>     by drafts, but not necessarily, and can be something that was
>>     discussed on the mailing list,
>>
>>      a presentation from a meeting etc. Ideally those will be
>>     accompanied by one or two lines to describe the challenge
>>     (+pointers). This helps not only to identify gaps, but also if
>>     there's a graduate student looking for a project in in-network
>>     computing, there may be a "go to page" hosted by COINRG with
>>     potential research challenges, and potential collaborators.
>>
>>     2. Invite postdocs and students to talk at the meetings. They are
>>     usually the first authors of papers so they know the tech side
>>     well, are more likely to have the time to travel, and are eager
>>     to discuss their research.
>>
>>     3. Make data available (this was briefly mentioned in the
>>     meeting). These may be use cases, datasets, traces etc. Research
>>     is better if it is driven by real world data (and more likely to
>>     get published).
>>
>>     4. List collaboration opportunities, internships etc that fall
>>     within COINRG domain.
>>
>>     Kind Regards,
>>
>>     Noa
>>
>>     On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 4:55 PM Marie-Jose Montpetit
>>     <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>
>>         Today at the Interim Noa Zilberman raised the issue on how to
>>         help academics contribute to COIN (thanks Noa!).
>>
>>         Obviously drafts are not the right vehicle for most academics
>>         and Colin Perkins added that we could have other mechanisms.
>>
>>         Some inputs:
>>
>>         - academic presentations at the meeting with appropriate
>>         papers stored in the Github and datatracker (we already have
>>         done some of this)
>>
>>         - if a topic could lead to a RFC support academic
>>         collaborators in writing a draft
>>
>>         - keeping a list of related conferences and try to have
>>         mini-PRG meetings there
>>
>>         But I am sure there is much more. So what are the list’s ideas?
>>
>>         The minutes of the meeting will be issued and I have a
>>         recording I will upload to the GitHub.
>>
>>         Thanks all!
>>
>>         mjm
>>
>>         Marie-José Montpetit, Ph.D.
>>
>>         Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory
>>
>>         [e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
>>
>>         mariejo@mit..edu <mailto:[e-mail]>
>>
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