Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN

[Marie-Jose Montpetit <[e-mail]>]

Thanks Frank!

Do you have a link to your emulator we could add to the list or a GitHub
link; can it be accessed remotely with all licensing aspects if licenses
are needed as a principle especially for students I would favor Open Source
implementations. And what is the goal of your emulator and how does it
relate to the topics currently being investigated by the PRG? Maybe
presenting your emulator could be part of your presentation in Singapore.

On teaching we could make a list of classes related to data plane
programmability (like P4), architectures using COIN (I will give one of
those before Singapore and could make the material available), technology
classes using COIN or COIN-like principles etc.  I will create a special
area in Github.


Marie-José Montpetit, Ph.D.
Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory
[e-mail]
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On October 9, 2019 at 8:08:24 AM, Frank Fitzek ([e-mail])
wrote:

Dear all,

I find the discussion about academic involvement very interesting and from
our side we are interested in

- research topics wrt COIN

- teaching activities around COIN

- implementation discussion wrt complexity and more

For the teaching activity we made our own emulator with several examples of
machine learning (congestion control/routing/object detection), coding and
compression etc. So if anybody is interested in these topics, I will be in
Singapore and hopefully have a lot of interesting discussions.

Frank
On 09.10.2019 13:09, Marie-Jose Montpetit wrote:

I also did both and still do. But if professors are not interested students
will not either. So we have to work all angles.

Marie-José Montpetit, Ph.D.
Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory
[e-mail]
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On October 9, 2019 at 7:02:00 AM, Rute Sofia ([e-mail]) wrote:

Well,



it is for students. I am in both worlds (academia and research towards
industry) so… J

Rute



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But that is the point: IRTF is NOT standardisation..



But OK for tutorials it seems its needed :)



mjm



Marie-José Montpetit, Ph.D.

Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory

[e-mail]

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On October 9, 2019 at 4:38:21 AM, Rute Sofia ([e-mail]) wrote:

Hello,



I would also suggest considering organizing tutorials and workshops
co-located with relevant scientific events. IMO most students are not
directed to standardisation. Therefore, most of them usually do not work
towards the IETF/IRTF.



So to attract academia, one of the best intruments are scientific events.



BR

Rute Sofia



*From:* Coin <[e-mail]> *On Behalf Of *Noa Zilberman
*Sent:* 08 October 2019 20:01
*To:* Marie-Jose Montpetit <[e-mail]>
*Cc:* [e-mail]; [e-mail]
*Subject:* Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN



Hi,



I would suggest that we need to find ways to incentivize academics to
engage with COIN.



Some ideas that I can think of are:

1. Clearly list challenges on the wiki. These may be accompanied by drafts,
but not necessarily, and can be something that was discussed on the mailing
list,

   a presentation from a meeting etc. Ideally those will be accompanied by
one or two lines to describe the challenge (+pointers). This helps not only
to identify gaps, but also if there's a graduate student looking for a
project in in-network computing, there may be a "go to page" hosted by
COINRG with potential research challenges, and potential collaborators.

2. Invite postdocs and students to talk at the meetings. They are usually
the first authors of papers so they know the tech side well, are more
likely to have the time to travel, and are eager to discuss their research.

3. Make data available (this was briefly mentioned in the meeting). These
may be use cases, datasets, traces etc.  Research is better if it is driven
by real world data (and more likely to get published).

4. List collaboration opportunities, internships etc that fall within
COINRG domain.



Kind Regards,

Noa



On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 4:55 PM Marie-Jose Montpetit <[e-mail]>
wrote:

Today at the Interim Noa Zilberman raised the issue on how to help
academics contribute to COIN (thanks Noa!).



Obviously drafts are not the right vehicle for most academics and Colin
Perkins added that we could have other mechanisms.



Some inputs:

- academic presentations at the meeting with appropriate papers stored in
the Github and datatracker (we already have done some of this)

- if a topic could lead to a RFC support academic collaborators in writing
a draft

- keeping a list of related conferences and try to have mini-PRG meetings
there



But I am sure there is much more. So what are the list’s ideas?



The minutes of the meeting will be issued and I have a recording I will
upload to the GitHub.



Thanks all!



mjm



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Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory

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