[Coin] SDN, Network Programming, and Semantic Routing
Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Thu, 03 February 2022 23:00 UTC
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Subject: [Coin] SDN, Network Programming, and Semantic Routing
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Hi yet again, With this email we get on to some of the serious topics for fitting Semantic Routing into the context of COIN. As we know, a significant part of what COIN is looking at is programmable networking and programmable network devices. In this context, the concept of programmability is pretty broad ranging from what we have known for years (installation of forwarding entries through management system commands - CLI, TL1, SNMP, Netconf/YANG), through the more recent development of new languages for installing network actions (OpenFlow, P4, BGP policies). There are several critical questions to be asked: - Is the programming installing forwarding actions based only on "traditional" lookups (typically the 5-tuple, and other flow classification fields), or is it telling the network node to look at other places in the packet? - Is the programming coordinated with packet classifiers and markers so that additional information is placed in the packets and used by the network nodes? - Is the use of programming the only solution, or is SDN just *an* approach that sits beside or can be integrated with other techniques including "traditional" routing systems? - What are the risks to the forwarding system arising from an SDN controller-based system in terms of scalability, flexibility, responsiveness, stability, and vulnerability to failures and attacks? - What is the potential for using programming to install algorithms on network devices such that they perform selective forwarding actions dependent on semantic routing information? What are the risks of inconsistent processing on different nodes, and how does the OAM work in such situations? This last point will be the subject of a separate thread as it moves beyond "network programming" and into "compute in the network". It is worth repeating that in all of this discussion, the scope of semantic routing remains at the IP-forwarding level. That is, programming functions and features above and beyond those used for next-hop routing at the packet forwarding layer is out of scope. That is not to say it is not interesting and valuable in many scenarios, just that it is not what is handled by the forwarding engines. In order to start to capture where our thinking is at, and so provide a basis for more in-depth discussions, we have posted https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-boucadair-irtf-sdn-and-semantic-routi ng/ This is very much "work in progress" as we are still collecting our ideas and have a way to go. The references are heavily oriented towards existing engineering solutions, and we have some work to do to also include the academic and research references. We would appreciate being told where we are wrong by experts in SDN and network programming. We would also appreciate ideas about how SDN controllers can keep an entire network "in synch" so that they are sure that there is consistent forwarding and loops and data sinks are avoided. Cheers, Adrian
- [Coin] SDN, Network Programming, and Semantic Rou… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Coin] SDN, Network Programming, and Semantic… Jon Crowcroft
- Re: [Coin] SDN, Network Programming, and Semantic… Dirk Trossen