Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN

Rute Sofia <sofia@fortiss.org> Wed, 09 October 2019 08:38 UTC

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Hello,

I would also suggest considering organizing tutorials and workshops co-located with relevant scientific events. IMO most students are not directed to standardisation. Therefore, most of them usually do not work towards the IETF/IRTF.

So to attract academia, one of the best intruments are scientific events.

BR
Rute Sofia

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Subject: Re: [Coin] Academic contributions in COIN

Hi,

I would suggest that we need to find ways to incentivize academics to engage with COIN.

Some ideas that I can think of are:
1. Clearly list challenges on the wiki. These may be accompanied by drafts, but not necessarily, and can be something that was discussed on the mailing list,
   a presentation from a meeting etc. Ideally those will be accompanied by one or two lines to describe the challenge (+pointers). This helps not only to identify gaps, but also if there's a graduate student looking for a project in in-network computing, there may be a "go to page" hosted by COINRG with potential research challenges, and potential collaborators.
2. Invite postdocs and students to talk at the meetings. They are usually the first authors of papers so they know the tech side well, are more likely to have the time to travel, and are eager to discuss their research.
3. Make data available (this was briefly mentioned in the meeting). These may be use cases, datasets, traces etc.  Research is better if it is driven by real world data (and more likely to get published).
4. List collaboration opportunities, internships etc that fall within COINRG domain.

Kind Regards,
Noa

On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 4:55 PM Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com<mailto:marie@mjmontpetit.com>> wrote:
Today at the Interim Noa Zilberman raised the issue on how to help academics contribute to COIN (thanks Noa!).

Obviously drafts are not the right vehicle for most academics and Colin Perkins added that we could have other mechanisms.

Some inputs:
- academic presentations at the meeting with appropriate papers stored in the Github and datatracker (we already have done some of this)
- if a topic could lead to a RFC support academic collaborators in writing a draft
- keeping a list of related conferences and try to have mini-PRG meetings there

But I am sure there is much more. So what are the list’s ideas?

The minutes of the meeting will be issued and I have a recording I will upload to the GitHub.

Thanks all!

mjm

Marie-José Montpetit, Ph.D.
Research Affiliate, MIT Media Laboratory
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