Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks of Resource-constrained Nodes (6lo)
Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Mon, 30 September 2013 12:01 UTC
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From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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Subject: Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks of
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On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 02:37:57PM +0000, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > Hi Juergen, > > I believe that what would not be useful is to be vague in the charter about what the WG must develop as part of its 'contract' with the IESG. > > My proposal was based on what you wrote in your previous mail: > > > One more time: The goal here is to define the number and the semantics > > of the counters that need to implemented in the 6LoWPAN layer in order > > to enable basic monitoring and troubleshooting. The formalism we have > > (as a standard) for that are MIB modules. > > Are now saying that the goal of the WG is not to define only the 'number and semantics of the counters' but actually the data model itself? Then Let us say it. I suggest: > > - MIB module for the counters in the 6LoWPAN layer for basic monitoring and troubleshooting > > We should avoid just saying 'MIB module' because this is too vague, and also we should not imply that this is necessarily the full management solution because it seems that the discussion about what is the management solution did not yet happen in the WG. > Apparently some prefer a more open ended charter while others prefer a strict charter. It will at the end be the IESG's job to define what the IESG prefers. If a strict charter is called for, then replacing Related MIB modules with MIB module for the counters in the 6LoWPAN layer for basic monitoring and troubleshooting is certainly fine with me. For those interested in a YANG model or a way to transport SMIv2 MIB defined counters over CoAP, please read Appendix A: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-schoenw-6lowpan-mib-03#appendix-A Following RFC 6643, a read-only MIB modules already translates into a YANG module and this may lead to a JSON representation (although this serialization of YANG defined data trees into JSON is at this point unchartered work). /js PS: 6LoWPAN does not exist in isolation. There are further counters devices should support such as basic interface in/out counters or counters in the IPv6 layer. All these counters and their semantics are defined today in SMIv2 MIB modules. Hence, it seems quite reasonable to me to use the same formalism also for the 6LoWPAN layer. -- Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1, 28759 Bremen, Germany Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.jacobs-university.de/>
- Re: [coman] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks of Reso… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [coman] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks of Reso… Benoit Claise
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [coman] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks of Reso… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Samita Chakrabarti
- [coman] FW: [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Samita Chakrabarti
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Erik Nordmark
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Erik Nordmark
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… joel jaeggli
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Turner, Randy
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Ulrich Herberg
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Samita Chakrabarti
- Re: [coman] [6lo] WG Review: IPv6 over Networks o… Benoit Claise