Re: [conex] IPR Disclosure: British Telecommunications plc's statement about IPR claimed in draft-ietf-conex-abstract-mech-04.txt

[Matt Mathis <[e-mail]>]

(-IETF wide and secretariat lists)

Bob, without a licencing statement, this IPR disclosure essentially kills
ConEx.....   Why should anybody in the IETF contribute free consulting to a
technology which BT claims to own, and can at any time in the future charge
what ever it pleases?  Why should anybody in any of the OS communities do
the same?

Random Cisco statements say something like:

The reasonable non-discriminatory terms are:

If this standard is adopted, Cisco will not assert any patents owned or
controlled by Cisco against
any party for making, using, selling, importing or offering for sale a
product that implements the
standard, provided, however that Cisco retains the right to assert its
patents (including the right
to claim past royalties) against any party that asserts a patent it owns or
controls (either
directly or indirectly) against Cisco or any of Cisco's affiliates or
successors in title or against
any products of Cisco or any products of any of Cisco's affiliates either
alone or in combination
with other products; and Cisco retains the right to assert its patents
against any product or
portion thereof that is not necessary for compliance with the standard.


I hope such language is on its way.

When was the patent application first submitted?

Thanks,
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On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 2:56 PM, IETF Secretariat <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> Dear Matt Mathis, Bob J. Briscoe:
>
>  An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled
"Congestion
> Exposure (ConEx) Concepts and Abstract Mechanism"
(draft-ietf-conex-abstract-
> mech) was submitted to the IETF Secretariat on 2012-11-22 and has been
posted on
> the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures"
> (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1922/). The title of the IPR disclosure
is
> "British Telecommunications plc's statement about IPR claimed in
draft-ietf-
> conex-abstract-mech-04.txt."");
>
> The IETF Secretariat
>